Google strikes Freesat deal to launch YouTube on TV.

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Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.

As I say, what is the point. I see those on Freeview too, I need to connect
to the internet, so why have channel markers on the transmission, why not
make them wholly on line like most things are.Are they trying to fool folk
into thinking its all coming via the sat or the transmitter?

also, a lot of the online stuff, like the ones you subscribe to for films
seem unable to do audio description on the films that had it in the cinema.

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:33:28 -0000, UnsteadyKen
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Brian Gaff wrote...

Why though. seems daft to me.

It would appear to make use of the Freesat FreeTime EPG announced last
year:
http://www.freesat.co.uk/freetime/

which is a sort of YouView for Freesat and is currently available on
the Humax HDR-1000S pvr, with Manhattan, Philips and Sagemcom due to
introduce STBs later.

Or YouTube might just be assigned a channel number in the EPG in the
same way as BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, BoxOffice365 and The Space (Ch 901,
903, 907 and 908 respectively). Those are all services using the
internet rather than satellite TV.



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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
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In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?
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"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...-launch-tv-cha
nnel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No, the point is that you will.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...aunch-tv-chann
el-freesat
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.


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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:03:47 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT), UK Traveller
wrote:

"Rick" Wrote in message:


"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:04:09 +0000, Ian
wrote:

In message , Rick writes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nologyandtelec
oms/media/9860880/Google-strikes-Freesat-deal-to-launch-YouTube-on-TV.ht
ml

My TV already does that.

and mine.

Silly headline too.


I also have Fox-T2, Samsung smart TV and a Technomate TM-5402HD satellite
receiver, all of which are equipped with Youtube, however I checked out the
infrequently used interactive settings on a Bush Freesat-HD box in the
kitchen and found that whilst it does include BBC iplayer, itv-player (which
for some undisclosed reason has always been 'unavailable on this receiver')
doesn't apparently include a Youtube application, which I assume is the
issue that the article is trying to address, a similar item in the Guardian
appears to be a little more informative, although I'm still left slightly
uncertain about whether it means that it's going to appear across the whole
Freesat platform, on all receivers, or only on Youview, Freetime or whatever
else they've decided to call it today?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/11/youtube-launch-tv-channel-freesat






Isn't the point that you won't be using your broadband connection?

No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more. When you use YouTube from a computer or
handheld device you select what you what to view. The information saying
what it is you want to view is transmitted from your device to the
YouTube computers somewhere in the world. The material you have asked
for is then sent to your computer/device. It is a two way process with
data going from your device to the YouTube computers and then video and
audio data coming back in the reverse direction.

Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.

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On 16/02/2013 14:20, Peter Duncanson wrote:

It appears from this blog item from Giles Cottle, Head of Strategy at
Freesat, that YouTube will be part of the new "free time"
specification of Freesat. That is the one that includes the "backward"
entries in the EPG.

So Youtube TV is going to have in the EPG the many millions of videos
that the customer can chose from?




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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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No. A broadband connection will be essential to use YouTube via a
Freesat box.

I'll explain a little more. When you use YouTube from a computer or
handheld device you select what you what to view. The information saying
what it is you want to view is transmitted from your device to the
YouTube computers somewhere in the world. The material you have asked
for is then sent to your computer/device. It is a two way process with
data going from your device to the YouTube computers and then video and
audio data coming back in the reverse direction.

Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.

So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:17:57 +0000, alan wrote:

On 16/02/2013 14:20, Peter Duncanson wrote:

It appears from this blog item from Giles Cottle, Head of Strategy at
Freesat, that YouTube will be part of the new "free time"
specification of Freesat. That is the one that includes the "backward"
entries in the EPG.

So Youtube TV is going to have in the EPG the many millions of videos
that the customer can chose from?

I haven't seen a specification but I assume that it will be similar to
the access to BBC iPlayer and ITV Player from the EPG: you select the
channel, 901 for BBC, 903 for ITV or perhaps 910 for YouTube, and you
then see a screen that is the interface via broadband to the the BBC,
ITV or YouTube servers.

You then work your way through the onscreen menus just as you would on a
PC, tablet computer or other device.

Like this for the BBC:
http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/image...rfreesat02.jpg


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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:47:04 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:


Satellite TV is a one-way only arrangement. TV programmes are
transmitted from satellites. Your receiver can choose between what is
being transmitted on different channels at any time but you can't ask
for something to be transmitted just for your own use starting at your
chosen time.

So how does the BBC's 'red button' *interactive* service work? (only
kidding)

I've often wondered how the broadcasters have the gall to continue to
call it interactive while running those consumer justice programmes
that expose and explain the same kind of technologically based
dishonesty in others, such as "unlimited" internet services.

Rod.