In view of the cost of energy...

As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that various members of this group will have ideas about how this could be done.
Those living near high voltage electricity transmission lines might be able to abstract enough electricity by simply mounting fluorescent tubes vertically. I wonder if some sort of aerial, if erected near enough to the overhead cables, might pick up a decent supply. Possibly a very large induction coil, running around the perimeter of the garden, might work.
And what about the telephone? There must be some electricity to tap there, surely?
I can think of lots of other ways of getting electrity without paying for it, but some of them carry significant risk.
What does the team think?

Bill

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As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at ways
of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that various
members of this group will have ideas about how this could be done.

How about some kind of turbine powered by the movement of air?

-- Richard

On 08/01/2013 15:09, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at ways
of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that various
members of this group will have ideas about how this could be done.

How about some kind of turbine powered by the movement of air?

-- Richard

That might work, they could install them inside Parliament and the
cabinet office

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:05:27 -0800 (PST),
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As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that various members of this group will have ideas about how this could be done.
Those living near high voltage electricity transmission lines might be able to abstract enough electricity by simply mounting fluorescent tubes vertically. I wonder if some sort of aerial, if erected near enough to the overhead cables, might pick up a decent supply. Possibly a very large induction coil, running around the perimeter of the garden, might work.
And what about the telephone? There must be some electricity to tap there, surely?
I can think of lots of other ways of getting electrity without paying for it, but some of them carry significant risk.
What does the team think?

Bill

I'll leave the energy generating up to the power companies. They can
produce energy much more efficiently than me!

The pressure from reseller competition keeps prices down.

My monthly direct debit was recently reduced from £105 to £65 when I
moved from Scottish Power to e.on and now Scottish power are offering
me a lower rate.

Steve

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As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at
ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that
various members of this group will have ideas about how this could be
done.

I can't find any reference googling but i remember in the 1960's or 70's
someone was prosecuted for stealing electricity by putting up resonance
aerials in their loft next to Brookmans Park MW Transmitter

BBC discovered they had an unexpected hole in their coverage in the
direction of nearby houses

Steve Terry
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Steve Terry wrote:
wrote:
As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at
ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that
various members of this group will have ideas about how this could be
done.

I can't find any reference googling but i remember in the 1960's or 70's
someone was prosecuted for stealing electricity by putting up resonance
aerials in their loft next to Brookmans Park MW Transmitter

BBC discovered they had an unexpected hole in their coverage in the
direction of nearby houses

That sounds to me like ********, you might be able to extract a very small
amount of power, but how could something small enough to be housed in a loft,
measurably affect a signal that has a wavelength of several hundred metres,
transmitted at very high power from a large array ?


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Mark Carver wrote:
Steve Terry wrote:
wrote:
As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at
ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that
various members of this group will have ideas about how this could
be done.

I can't find any reference googling but i remember in the 1960's or
70's someone was prosecuted for stealing electricity by putting up
resonance aerials in their loft next to Brookmans Park MW Transmitter

BBC discovered they had an unexpected hole in their coverage in the
direction of nearby houses

That sounds to me like ********, you might be able to extract a very
small amount of power, but how could something small enough to be
housed in a loft, measurably affect a signal that has a wavelength of
several hundred metres, transmitted at very high power from a large
array ?

Apparently he was using the RF to light fluorescent tubes, but as you
say otherwise to take any real power isn't plausible.

I think his mistake was he went on a light entertainment TV prog
like "Nationwide" and bragged about it

Steve Terry
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Steve Terry wrote:

Apparently he was using the RF to light fluorescent tubes, but as you
say otherwise to take any real power isn't plausible.

I think his mistake was he went on a light entertainment TV prog
like "Nationwide" and bragged about it

Ah, in that case, the actual facts would have been buried in a combination of
'story hype', and total misunderstanding of the technicalities.

I remember a few years ago, a light plane clipped the earth cable of some
400kV electicity transmission lines, and crashed in a field.

The local paper claimed that as a result of the collision, the power supply to
a farmhouse and other homes nearby was interupted for several hours until
repairs were made to the pylon.

Ummm.

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"Steve Terry" wrote in message
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wrote:
As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should
look at
ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think
that
various members of this group will have ideas about how this
could be
done.

I can't find any reference googling but i remember in the
1960's or 70's
someone was prosecuted for stealing electricity by putting up
resonance
aerials in their loft next to Brookmans Park MW Transmitter

BBC discovered they had an unexpected hole in their coverage in
the
direction of nearby houses




Anecdotal, but it was Droitwich, not BP.


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Woody

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On 08/01/2013 17:46, Steve Terry wrote:
wrote:
As we all struggle with our energy bills, perhaps we should look at
ways of obtaining energy without paying for it. I would think that
various members of this group will have ideas about how this could be
done.

I can't find any reference googling but i remember in the 1960's or 70's
someone was prosecuted for stealing electricity by putting up resonance
aerials in their loft next to Brookmans Park MW Transmitter

I remember a similar story told by the physics teacher at school
mumble years ago. This one is supposed to have happened at Borough
Hill Daventry, not a million miles away and still home to some large
aerial arrays at the time.

The local farmer supposedly noticed some of the lamps in his
outbuildings glowed when turned off. He experimented with the position
and length of the cables until he got some usable light. The engineers
noticed the power loss, went investigating and he was found out.

--
Fred