TV displays in shops

On 03/12/2012 18:42, Graham. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:45:22 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:11:47 -0600, "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

Paul D Smith wrote:

Might be worth a chat to the manager though if you're that bothered.
Suggest he switches one of the Samsungs to HDMI and see the
difference.

Yeah, except that he probably won't. It amazes me how insensitive so
many people are to picture quality. I've tried discussing
not-so-subtle picture issues with a shop assistant a couple of times
and they simply have no idea what I'm on about.

A flash of light and a burst of sound and it's good enough to sell.

Isn't that a lyric from Joseph & T.A.T.D?

critcher said...................
you will find that Currys etc. will push a particular brand because they
have a monopoly on a particular model within that brand.

MartinR wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2012 12:47:31 PM UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
lid wrote:
snip
Does anyone still buy HDMI leads from retail stores?
MartinR

Poundland have some very acceptable Belkin HDMI leads

Steve Terry
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On 02/12/2012 18:17, Bill Wright wrote:
I was in a branch of a large supermarket chain the other day and I
looked at the display of tellys. All looked bright and cheerful, at
first glance. They were all fed by HDMI and were all showing the same
programme in glorious HD. But at one end of the display were three
Samsungs mounted one above the other. The pictures were dull and had low
contrast. On close examination it became obvious that the pictures were
not HD but were composite 625 line. They looked pretty dreadful
alongside the others.
It was possible to stand at the end of the display and see what
connections each TV set had. The Samsungs, as far as I could see by
squinting, were daisychained using scart leads. All the rest had HDMI
leads.
I wonder if this would make any difference to the number of Samsungs the
shop sold.

Bill

The problem is inadequate and thick shop staff.
Mike.

Mike wrote:
On 02/12/2012 18:17, Bill Wright wrote:
I was in a branch of a large supermarket chain the other day and I
looked at the display of tellys. All looked bright and cheerful, at
first glance. They were all fed by HDMI and were all showing the same
programme in glorious HD. But at one end of the display were three
Samsungs mounted one above the other. The pictures were dull and had low
contrast. On close examination it became obvious that the pictures were
not HD but were composite 625 line. They looked pretty dreadful
alongside the others.
It was possible to stand at the end of the display and see what
connections each TV set had. The Samsungs, as far as I could see by
squinting, were daisychained using scart leads. All the rest had HDMI
leads.
I wonder if this would make any difference to the number of Samsungs the
shop sold.

Bill

The problem is inadequate and thick shop staff.
Mike.

Bear in mind that the staff are generally on the national minimum. There
seems to be no incentive for the shops to employ 'better' people.

Bill

"Mike" wrote in message
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On 02/12/2012 18:17, Bill Wright wrote:
I was in a branch of a large supermarket chain the other day and I
looked at the display of tellys. All looked bright and cheerful, at
first glance. They were all fed by HDMI and were all showing the
same
programme in glorious HD. But at one end of the display were three
Samsungs mounted one above the other. The pictures were dull and
had low
contrast. On close examination it became obvious that the pictures
were
not HD but were composite 625 line. They looked pretty dreadful
alongside the others.
It was possible to stand at the end of the display and see what
connections each TV set had. The Samsungs, as far as I could see by
squinting, were daisychained using scart leads. All the rest had
HDMI
leads.
I wonder if this would make any difference to the number of
Samsungs the
shop sold.

Bill

The problem is inadequate and thick shop staff.
Mike.

It must be really difficult for someone such as intelligent
as yourself, having to deal with all these inadequate and
thick people people on a daily basis. Although nowadays
thankfully, rather than having to suffer alone you can at
least, share your pain with all your fellow sufferers
on UseNet.

Paying technically competent staff a rate of pay
commensurate with their level of expertise would mean having
to raise prices in an enviroment where the main competion
is from online suppliers with minimal overheads.

Anyone daft enough to base a buying decision for an expensive
piece of equipment solely on a display in somewhere like Tesco
- where its obvious that most of the sets can't be set up
correctly such is the variation between them - would want
their head examined.

Some of the smaller Samsung TV/monitors TB300 350 etc are LED
and are highly directional. I'm not sure if its these which are
what's being referred to. But if three of these were mounted one
on top of the other in a display they would look rubbish.
In fact they look rubbish outside of a fairly narrow
viewing angle. I know next to nothing about Flat Screen TV
but bought one despite this, simply because of the
connectivity.

Just so long as you don't move your head around too much
it's fine.


michael adams

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On 03/12/2012 13:11, Steve Thackery wrote:
Yeah, except that he probably won't. It amazes me how insensitive so
many people are to picture quality. I've tried discussing
not-so-subtle picture issues with a shop assistant a couple of times
and they simply have no idea what I'm on about.

When we bought our last TV - a Panny 29 inc CRT - I called them back and
told them it had a vertical linearity problem. Yer what? Anyway they
came and collected it, stuck it into the workshop, looked at it, and
couldn't see that features that were an inch high on most of the screen
shrank to half an inch in the bottom couple of inches. (especially
noticeable on end titles) So they called my wife. Who claimed
ignorance (probably in three languages, knowing her). They sent it back
unfixed. It stayed wrong until I got hold of the setup manual a few
years later and found out what magic buttons to press.

If the workshop don't know what vertical linearity is (was?) what hope
do the shop front have?

Andy

In message , critcher writes

critcher said...................
you will find that Currys etc. will push a particular brand because
they have a monopoly on a particular model within that brand.

When I worked at Comet, (in the late 70s), it was Solarvox. I made good
commission pushing them. :-)

--
Simon

12) The Second Rule of Expectations
An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment.

usenet2012 wrote:
In message , critcher writes

critcher said...................
you will find that Currys etc. will push a particular brand because
they have a monopoly on a particular model within that brand.

When I worked at Comet, (in the late 70s), it was Solarvox. I made good
commission pushing them. :-)

Pretty good tellys as I remember. Didn't they do a rather butch-looking
small screen one that lasted forever?

Bill

In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

usenet2012 wrote:

When I worked at Comet, (in the late 70s), it was Solarvox. I made good
commission pushing them. :-)

Pretty good tellys as I remember. Didn't they do a rather butch-looking
small screen one that lasted forever?

ISTR that name from a stereo amplifier my cousin had, but I don't think
there was an 'r' in it.

--
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:13:46 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

On 03/12/2012 13:11, Steve Thackery wrote:
Yeah, except that he probably won't. It amazes me how insensitive so
many people are to picture quality. I've tried discussing
not-so-subtle picture issues with a shop assistant a couple of times
and they simply have no idea what I'm on about.

When we bought our last TV - a Panny 29 inc CRT - I called them back and
told them it had a vertical linearity problem. Yer what? Anyway they
came and collected it, stuck it into the workshop, looked at it, and
couldn't see that features that were an inch high on most of the screen
shrank to half an inch in the bottom couple of inches. (especially
noticeable on end titles) So they called my wife. Who claimed
ignorance (probably in three languages, knowing her). They sent it back
unfixed. It stayed wrong until I got hold of the setup manual a few
years later and found out what magic buttons to press.

If they were unfamiliar with the term "vertical linearity" they might
have mistakenly guessed that it meant that vertical lines were not
straight.

If the workshop don't know what vertical linearity is (was?) what hope
do the shop front have?

Quite.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)