BBC let something slip through today

Steve Terry wrote:

Maybe not intentionally but i know of girls who were happy being
pregnant knowing it put them at the top of the housing association ladder

They do it deliberately. "Me dad were getting on me wick, so I thought
I'd better get a flat." I've heard it so many times.

Bill

Steve Terry wrote:
Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
It needs even more protection against Labour.

It's so fecked now, maybe we should adopt the French system

As a very intensive NHS user for the last ten years I don't agree.

Bill

Pre NHS about 1946 in late August I was walking the two miles home from
school along the A41 in Warwickshire, the blackberries were in great
abundance on the roadside brambles. I picked and popped them in my mouth as
I walked. Without a care in the world I became careless and did not notice a
wasp on the blackberry. The sting caused my lips swell and were looking like
a ducks bill. With my mother we cycled three miles to a Doctors he sat at
desk and wrote on slip of paper and said take this to the chemists and
charged my mother 7 shillings and sixpence. The chemist advised how to apply
the mixture and charged a shilling. I have always appreciated the NHS since.

Some 15 years later I did some work for that Doctor and added a tenner to my
charge, sweeter than blackberries.

Bill Burgoyne

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Steve Terry wrote:
Tony Houghton wrote:
In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The NHS: It should be protected against the Tories
It needs even more protection against Labour.

It's so fecked now, maybe we should adopt the French system

As a very intensive NHS user for the last ten years I don't agree.

Bill

In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a
quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in
these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the
best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Tony Houghton wrote:

And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.
There's the cost of the spanking new building, and of course that surly
teenager behind the desk has to be paid, even though she regards
patients as an unwelcome interruption to her social networking.

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability. Before 1997 if I needed
treatment I could get an appointment about two weeks away even if it was
a root filling. Now I usually have to wait a month for an assessment,
then another month before they actually do anything. The few remaining
NHS dentists are heavily oversubscribed (the targets Labour set were
aimed at getting as many people on their books as possible, never mind
whether they can provide a prompt service to them with decent
remuneration for more complicated procedures), and I've had to change
surgeries three times, looking further afield, as they left the NHS.

For the last few years all my dentists have been foreign and very young;
presumably just out of University, gaining experience before going on to
a better job in the private sector asap. They seem very well trained on
the whole, but for some things you can't beat experience, and I've had a
couple of very nasty extractions as a result.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS.
However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a
quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in
these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the
best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
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My dentist always explains the options.

Bill

Tony Houghton wrote:

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability.

There must be regional variations. Near here there is a dentist with a
huge poster on his gable: NHS patients welcome.

Bill

In article ,
Tony Houghton wrote:
For the last few years all my dentists have been foreign and very young;
presumably just out of University, gaining experience before going on to
a better job in the private sector asap. They seem very well trained on
the whole, but for some things you can't beat experience, and I've had a
couple of very nasty extractions as a result.

Have you checked recently? The recession seems to have hit private
dentists quite hard - around here anyway. So more are taking NHS patients.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Bill Wright wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
And have you been to the dentist much since 1997?

It's odd that dental care has always been partly outside the NHS. However, accepting that it is the charges don't seem unreasonable.

Until you consider that the cost of pulling a tooth out is about a quarter of the cost of repairing it with a crown. I suspect that in these circumstances decisions are often made that are not based on the best medical interests of the patient.

Rod.
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My dentist always explains the options.

Maybe.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/05may/Pa...omplaints.aspx

BugBear

In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Tony Houghton wrote:

I don't mean the cost, I mean the availability.

There must be regional variations. Near here there is a dentist with a
huge poster on his gable: NHS patients welcome.

Yes, there are regional variations, but the "postcode lottery" was very
much part of Labour's NHS policy. From what I heard in the news at the
time I was lucky to find another NHS dentist each time one closed, other
areas were much worse off.

Labour also made a last minute attempt to reverse the declining numbers
of NHS dentists which appears to have been partially successful, but has
nowhere near solved the problem as they claim. Not that there ever was a
problem, if you believed everything else they said!

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