Rapid change in consumer TVs - too rapid?

TVs are becoming obsolete within six months or so.
Recent(ish) changes:

HD Ready - FullHD (1080p)
FreeView - FreeView HD
3D
'Smart' TVs with Internet software

This seems to have created a wierd gap in the market place.

As covered in many previous threads, there are still many TVs out there with
FreeView but not FreeView HD.
There are many TVs out there with low resolution screens.

I looked in Argos the other day and there were two rows of TVs on display
and not a single one was FreeView HD, and many were HD Ready instead of Full
HD.

On the other hand it is getting harder to buy a TV with a decent
specification which does not have 3D and 'smart' capability.

So is the future market to be a choice of 5+ year old very low spec.
technology at £2-300 a pop or the latest bleeding edge technology up in the
thousands?
Although I can understand the attraction of selling cheap low res TVs,
surely there is no justification in shipping TVs which don't support
FreeView HD?


Cheers

Dave R

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David WE Roberts wrote:
: TVs are becoming obsolete within six months or so.
: Recent(ish) changes:

: HD Ready - FullHD (1080p)
: FreeView - FreeView HD
: 3D
: 'Smart' TVs with Internet software

ONLY if you want to have all these changes - and if you want them built-in
to the TV .... generally a BAD idea to have internet/iPlayer built-on (as
opposed to being provided via SKy+/YouView etc.) for example

: I looked in Argos the other day and there were two rows of TVs on display
: and not a single one was FreeView HD, and many were HD Ready instead of Full
: HD.

I am a little astonished at ALL TVs not being "Full HD" by now. Freeview HD
is just not necessary for anyone getting HD via any other source and, if
it makes the TV cheaper, that would be a good thing to omit.

Mind you I would NOT expect Argos to be at the forefront of technology!

Actually, unless you are really keen, I get the impression that hd is not
something people want that greatly at the moment. If its offered affordably,
then fine, but eavesdropping price and reasonable picture seem to be the
main criteria.
Brian

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"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
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TVs are becoming obsolete within six months or so.
Recent(ish) changes:

HD Ready - FullHD (1080p)
FreeView - FreeView HD
3D
'Smart' TVs with Internet software

This seems to have created a wierd gap in the market place.

As covered in many previous threads, there are still many TVs out there
with FreeView but not FreeView HD.
There are many TVs out there with low resolution screens.

I looked in Argos the other day and there were two rows of TVs on display
and not a single one was FreeView HD, and many were HD Ready instead of
Full HD.

On the other hand it is getting harder to buy a TV with a decent
specification which does not have 3D and 'smart' capability.

So is the future market to be a choice of 5+ year old very low spec.
technology at £2-300 a pop or the latest bleeding edge technology up in
the thousands?
Although I can understand the attraction of selling cheap low res TVs,
surely there is no justification in shipping TVs which don't support
FreeView HD?


Cheers

Dave R

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In article , David WE Roberts
wrote:
TVs are becoming obsolete within six months or so. Recent(ish) changes:

HD Ready - FullHD (1080p) FreeView - FreeView HD 3D 'Smart' TVs with
Internet software

You omitted:

All the current models that are banjaxed by 4G. (Plus some that will
probably end up going on sale *after* 4G.)

Slainte,

Jim

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Tesco have about 50 TV sets on display only 2 have Freeview HD and one of
these was a 3D as well.
I do not think Joe Public understands about the separate HD stations.
Regards
David

I have just looked at Argos Web site and they have no Freeview HD built in
TV sets.
Regards
David

In article ,
David WE Roberts wrote:

As covered in many previous threads, there are still many TVs out there with
FreeView but not FreeView HD.

Many people had black-and-white TVs for more than a decade after colour
was introduced.

And I think that a trend away from having everything built in to the
TV is actually a good thing. Why should you have to buy a new screen
just because some new source is available? It would make more sense to
have dumb monitors (or monitor + speaker packages).

Of course, there are advances in monitors. For viewing in a
good-sized room a "Full HD" screen is worthwhile. 3D is another
example, but I have been consistently disappointed by it.

-- Richard

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:42:45 -0000, "David"
wrote:



I have just looked at Argos Web site and they have no Freeview HD built in
TV sets.
Regards
David

Look more closely. :-)

I bought one of these from Argos a few weeks ago:
Samsung EH5300 40 Inch Full HD Freeview HD Smart LED TV
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/5299696.htm

There is also:
Samsung EH530 46 Inch Full HD Freeview HD Smart LED TV
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/7471089.htm

Or LG:
LG LS570T 42 Inch Full HD 1080p Freeview HD Smart LED TV
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/9089149.htm

Or Panasonic:
Panasonic L19X5B 19 Inch HD Ready Freeview HD LED TV
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/5299737.htm

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:38:47 -0000, "David"
wrote:

Tesco have about 50 TV sets on display only 2 have Freeview HD and one of
these was a 3D as well.
I do not think Joe Public understands about the separate HD stations.

Tescos also sell Freeview HD STBs.
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So the TV doesn't need any tuner in then as Tesco sell ordinary Freeview
boxes as well. :-)
Regards
david

In article ,
Peter Duncanson wrote:

I bought one of these from Argos a few weeks ago:

Our local Argos had some TVs on display last time I was there. But
they were set up as if to discourage anyone from buying them. They
appeared to be fed from a VCR, and each had aspect ratio set in a
different, wrong, way.

-- Richard