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Old October 2nd 12, 11:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
jim stone
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Not being able to find a small internet radio to buy we liked, we got mobile
phone with which we link with wi-fi to a modem router, and use it as an
internet radio.

Keeping the phoned plugged into its charger all the time, we are using it to
play *all-day* background classical music through an amplifier and speakers.

Since the phone has no 'moving parts' unlike a computer, we are wondering if
this continuous playing all day of the phone is going to shorten its working
life ?


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Old October 2nd 12, 11:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
Tom Biasi
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On 10/2/2012 5:21 PM, jim stone wrote:
Not being able to find a small internet radio to buy we liked, we got mobile
phone with which we link with wi-fi to a modem router, and use it as an
internet radio.

Keeping the phoned plugged into its charger all the time, we are using it to
play *all-day* background classical music through an amplifier and speakers.

Since the phone has no 'moving parts' unlike a computer, we are wondering if
this continuous playing all day of the phone is going to shorten its working
life ?



Using anything shortens it's working life.
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Old October 2nd 12, 11:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
William Sommerwerck
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"Tom Biasi" wrote in message
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On 10/2/2012 5:21 PM, jim stone wrote:


Not being able to find a small internet radio to buy we liked,
we got a mobile phone with which we link with WiFi to a modem
router, and use it as an internet radio.


Keeping the phoned plugged into its charger all the time, we are
using it to play *all-day* background classical music through an
amplifier and speakers.


Since the phone has no "moving parts" unlike a computer, we are
wondering if this continuous playing all day of the phone is going
to shorten its working life ?


Using anything shortens its working life.


Not so. There aren't any obvious failure mechanisms in solid-state devices
(other than dopant migration in high-power output transistors).

It's also true that most mechanical devices "like" moderate use. Letting
anything mechanical "sit" most of the time will probably cause it fail
sooner than if receives regular use.

It's now possible to build computers without moving parts (other than the
optical drives). My new computer has a solid-state "hard disk", and you
wouldn't believe how fast it boots up, or how fast programs start to run.


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Old October 2nd 12, 11:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
Tom Biasi
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On 10/2/2012 5:43 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
"Tom Biasi" wrote in message
...
On 10/2/2012 5:21 PM, jim stone wrote:


Not being able to find a small internet radio to buy we liked,
we got a mobile phone with which we link with WiFi to a modem
router, and use it as an internet radio.


Keeping the phoned plugged into its charger all the time, we are
using it to play *all-day* background classical music through an
amplifier and speakers.


Since the phone has no "moving parts" unlike a computer, we are
wondering if this continuous playing all day of the phone is going
to shorten its working life ?


Using anything shortens its working life.


Not so. There aren't any obvious failure mechanisms in solid-state devices
(other than dopant migration in high-power output transistors).

It's also true that most mechanical devices "like" moderate use. Letting
anything mechanical "sit" most of the time will probably cause it fail
sooner than if receives regular use.

It's now possible to build computers without moving parts (other than the
optical drives). My new computer has a solid-state "hard disk", and you
wouldn't believe how fast it boots up, or how fast programs start to run.


There are many factors that cause something to fail. I you don't use it,
it has no working life. I don't wish to play semantics but if you use it
you are using up it's working life.


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Old October 3rd 12, 12:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
William Sommerwerck
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There are many factors that cause something to fail. I you
don't use it, it has no working life. I don't wish to play
semantics but if you use it you are using up its working life.


Not so. With mechanical devices, regular moderate use provides a longer
useful lifetime than using the device only rarely.


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Old October 3rd 12, 12:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
David Woolley[_2_]
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William Sommerwerck wrote:

optical drives). My new computer has a solid-state "hard disk", and you
wouldn't believe how fast it boots up, or how fast programs start to run.


These, if flash memory, do have a definite wear out mechanism, although
they do try to avoid writing to the same spot, even if the software
does, to mitigate this.


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Old October 3rd 12, 12:57 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
Tom Biasi
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On 10/2/2012 6:32 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
There are many factors that cause something to fail. I you
don't use it, it has no working life. I don't wish to play
semantics but if you use it you are using up its working life.


Not so. With mechanical devices, regular moderate use provides a longer
useful lifetime than using the device only rarely.


I don't agree but will say no more.
Regards,
Tom
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Old October 3rd 12, 01:24 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
Graham.[_6_]
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:57:07 -0400, Tom Biasi
wrote:

On 10/2/2012 6:32 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
There are many factors that cause something to fail. I you
don't use it, it has no working life. I don't wish to play
semantics but if you use it you are using up its working life.


Not so. With mechanical devices, regular moderate use provides a longer
useful lifetime than using the device only rarely.


I don't agree but will say no more.
Regards,
Tom


Not sure if my News server supports x-posts to the entire Usenet, but
I digress.

An incandescent light bulb is a good example, If it lasts 1000 hours
when run continuously, its life will be considerably shorter if run
(say) 4 hours a day and the time it is on added up.
Equipment with lots of thermionic devices like very early computers
were, as far as practical, never switched off because of the
likelihood of failure.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
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Old October 3rd 12, 01:28 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
Phil Allison
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"Graham."


An incandescent light bulb is a good example, If it lasts 1000 hours
when run continuously, its life will be considerably shorter if run
(say) 4 hours a day and the time it is on added up.



** Where ever did you get that nonsense from ??

Some web forum ?





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Old October 3rd 12, 01:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv,24hoursupport.helpdesk,uk.telecom.mobile,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.repair
JoRob64
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"Graham."


An incandescent light bulb is a good example, If it lasts 1000 hours
when run continuously, its life will be considerably shorter if run
(say) 4 hours a day and the time it is on added up.



** Where ever did you get that nonsense from ??

Some web forum ?


I believe turning the bulbs on and off can induce thermal shock which causes
premature failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_shock

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermionic_valves

"The common wisdom was that valves—which, like light bulbs, contained a hot
glowing filament—could never be used satisfactorily in large numbers, for
they were unreliable, and in a large installation too many would fail in too
short a time".[13] Tommy Flowers, who later designed Colossus, "discovered
that, so long as valves were switched on and left on, they could operate
reliably for very long periods, especially if their 'heaters' were run on a
reduced current".

 




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