HD, wasn't this supposed to fix the letterbox issue?

On 8/25/2012 7:13 PM PT, Drewdove typed:

Like many I watch the picture, not the spaces above and below.

Ditto. I want the whole picture. I don't mind the black bars!
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On 26/08/2012 03:13, Drewdove wrote:



I still have a laserdisc player where many of the titles are letterboxed
because true videophiles (those who have LD players) would rather have OAR
than pan-n-scan. To the rest they got VHS.

Like many I watch the picture, not the spaces above and below.




i hope you're putting your tv in zoom mode then - because laserdiscs
were non anamorphic and will be the wrong shape if you don't.

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On 8/26/2012 6:46 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article , "Drewdove"
wrote:

The dreaded black bars

so, you go into the whole thing with the definition that the black bars
are "dreaded".

And why is that?

I guess you don't go to movies, where they adjust the top and side
curtains dynamically depending on the movie they're showing--that is,
every movie can have its own aspect ratio as defined by the director.
There is no one standard, but you want there to be and therefore by
definition any divergence from that is "dreaded".

"I bought all that TV screen, and by God I will see it all used!!"


I thought that the choice to 'zoom' a TV picture in or out was a user
option in many, if not all, modern TV sets. It is certainly so on each
set, or the player feeding the a/v to the set, here. Recently, we
rented (or should I say, NetFlixed) two old, pre 1952, and favorite
movies which had been released on Blu-Ray. As the picture quality was
great, I zoomed, in aspect, to 16:9 and felt no loss at all for the top
and bottom cropping. Similarly, several 2.35 videos can lose their
edges without degrading content in any way. Some find black bars
"dreaded," I find them disposable. It's why there are options
now-a-days. WTFAY to tell anyone else how they should watch or what
they should appreciate? Your dictatorial standards are by no means of
interest to me. The 'pure' proselytizing purity smacks of a JW mind
set, compelled to sell their adopted standards door-to-door for their
remaining time on earth;-)

On 8/26/2012 10:22 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article ,
clover wrote:

Recently, we
rented (or should I say, NetFlixed) two old, pre 1952, and favorite
movies which had been released on Blu-Ray. As the picture quality was
great, I zoomed, in aspect, to 16:9 and felt no loss at all for the top
and bottom cropping.

that is to say, your OCD about the "dreaded black bars" and how they are
"just wrong!" overcame any desire you had to see the *actual* movie
itself.

You're so busy seeing the screen, you can't see the story being played
on it.

Some of us can multitask! Sorry you're not among us;-)

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article , "Drewdove"
wrote:

The dreaded black bars

so, you go into the whole thing with the definition that the black
bars are "dreaded".

And why is that?

I was being sarcastic. I thought the rest of my post made that clear.

I guess you don't go to movies, where they adjust the top and side
curtains dynamically depending on the movie they're showing--that is,
every movie can have its own aspect ratio as defined by the director.
There is no one standard, but you want there to be and therefore by
definition any divergence from that is "dreaded".

"I bought all that TV screen, and by God I will see it all used!!"

Drewdove wrote : Like many I watch the picture, not the spaces above and
below.

:P

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:24:05 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

In article ,
clover wrote:

WTFAY to tell anyone else how they should watch or what
they should appreciate?

You can watch what you want. I will continue to call you insane for
your insistence on being bothered by the "black bars" and for filling up
the screen, because you're too busy watching the screen to watch the
story being displayed on it.

I can only wonder the level of anxiety you will exhibit in theaters now
that you know they adjust the curtains because no movie uses the entire
screen. You'll see nothing but the curtains for your $14.50.

You seem to be unaware that clover is not the OP.

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On 8/26/2012 5:24 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article ,
clover wrote:

You're so busy seeing the screen, you can't see the story being played
on it.



A specious argument at best. Were you truly enrapt by the story, you'd
not notice the aspect ratio. Thus my comment on multitasking, as I
notice both and manipulate the only one of which I can to best satisfy
myself.

Some of us can multitask! Sorry you're not among us;-)

You mean, some of you are extremely OCD and can't relax. Right, Sheldon?


Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD): an anxiety disorder characterized
by repetitive thoughts which produce uneasiness, apprehension, fear, or
worry causing driven behaviors. Reads, to me, like a description of a
majority of your Usenet posts. Whereas, I've said nothing indicating
repetitiveness in my behavior. In literally multi-thousands of video
viewings, I've changed the aspect ratio perhaps tens of dozens of times.
And yes, I've relished it every time, feeling smug in my control of my
entertainment environment;-)

Grasping for straws, Shag ?

On 8/27/2012 3:46 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article ,
clover wrote:

Whereas, I've said nothing indicating
repetitiveness in my behavior. In literally multi-thousands of video
viewings, I've changed the aspect ratio perhaps tens of dozens of times.

It's not your behavior, it's your OCD on noticing the black bars every
time.

Hmmmm, somehow I thought I'd made it clear that I do not see black bars
on selected videos, because they've been removed. Were their removal
OCD, I suppose I'd then have to reinstate the black bars so that I could
remove them again and again and etc. Is English not your native language?

On 8/28/2012 6:04 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
In article ,
clover wrote:

Hmmmm, somehow I thought I'd made it clear that I do not see black bars
on selected videos, because they've been removed.

...by your zooming, because first you *did* see them and they bothered
you intensely.


You're apparently describing the way *you* feel about my preferences.
"Intensely" is *your* adverb because its one with which you are
intimately familiar. As I've already said: if you're truly content
driven, you'd care less how the video is cropped. You seem to have the
attributes regarding this matter that you wish to attribute to me. It
seems your more enrapt by the boxed image than the story. Pot . . .
kettle . . . ;-) And, if I was bothered "intensely" so easily, I'd
merely ignore your posts. But, like altering frame sizes, which I
enjoy, I'm quite enjoying your blathering! I suppose you could, if you
calmed down, actually tell me why it's so important to you how I watch
video. But I doubt that you have any idea. You just have an untenable
position and it's vital to you to appear to defend it with vigor.