BBC in an independent Scotland

It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)

Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

No, it can't. Future satellites might well have a tighter beam, to reduce the
signal in Scotland, but current 'UK' beams include the whole of the UK

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)

Jamming is non starter for satellite broadcasts. The only way is to disrupt
the uplink, by firing a jamming signal at the satellite, which would kill the
downlink signal everywhere.


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On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:39:40 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

No, it can't. Future satellites might well have a tighter beam, to reduce the
signal in Scotland, but current 'UK' beams include the whole of the UK

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)

Jamming is non starter for satellite broadcasts. The only way is to disrupt
the uplink, by firing a jamming signal at the satellite, which would kill the
downlink signal everywhere.

Is the satellite within range of Scotland or would this need to be
done from by a naval vessel at sea nearer the equator :-)

In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:

No, it can't. Future satellites might well have a tighter beam, to reduce the
signal in Scotland,

And even that would be pointless. It's less than 50 miles from
Edinburgh to the border, and about 80 from Glasgow. A beam that gives
a good signal to all of England will still be reasonable for the major
centres of population in Scotland.

-- Richard

On 25/08/2012 16:34, Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)




when you set up freesat it asks for your postcode - if you're daft
enough to put in a scottish one....

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

In article , Scott
wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence.

You can perhaps clarify if that simply means 'BBC Scotland' (the station)
or the entire BBC broadcast distribution in Scotland. Quite a large
distinction since in practice the TV 'station' is a part-time minor part of
all the BBC output delivered into Scotland.

Also of interest to know where this is reported. Your posting is
the only place I've noticed it. But I tend not to see TV news, etc,
over a weekend.

Leaving aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any
practical difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they
beamed to prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the
footprint be fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

It seems unlikely. And shaving towards 'politics' I suspect he'd find it a
vote loser to try and remove all BBC distribution in Scotland. Given how
adept he is, I wonder if he would be so rash. So any such statement now may
be a ploy to gain political attention... but might backfire on him if
pushed too far.

I suspect most people wouldn't be too bothered if 'BBC Scotland' as a
station that puts some opt outs, etc, onto the 'BBC1' and 'BBC2' streams
was replaced by something 'independently Scottish' in terms of production
and ownership, etc.

But trying to remove *all* BBC TV and Radio would, I think, annoy far
more people than it would please. I don't doubt there are some people
who dislike the BBC and regard it as the 'English Broadcasting Corp.'
and want it replaced for political reasons. But I guess the votes
he'd gain from them are already in his pocket. Whereas he could
lose many 'undecided' votes if seen as the man who would take away all
the BBC stations.


If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)

I suspect it would be illegal as it would mean jamming the uplink input or
putting a nearby satellite in as a jammer, which would be likely to upset
viewing below the line. And the use of broadcasting, etc, are set by
international agreements and law.

Oh well, at least it would mean we could stop bothering too much about 4G
upsetting BBCA from Angus on ch60-. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:07:20 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 25/08/2012 16:34, Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)




when you set up freesat it asks for your postcode - if you're daft
enough to put in a scottish one....

What is the purpose of the postcode? Is it to confirm eligibility or
just to predict user preferences? Anyway I'm sure my Glasgow postcode
is SW4 ...

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:33:29 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:07:20 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 25/08/2012 16:34, Scott wrote:
It is reported today that Salmond wants to replace BBC Scotland with a
Scottish broadcaster IF Scotland votes for independence. Leaving
aside the politics, if this comes to pass will there be any practical
difficulty receiving BBC channels via Freesat? Are they beamed to
prevent viewers outside the UK receiving them? Could the footprint be
fine-tuned to prevent reception in Scotland?

If Salmond decides to jam these broadcasts (as in the cold war era)
would this require jamming from a satellite or could the jamming
equipment be at ground level :-)




when you set up freesat it asks for your postcode - if you're daft
enough to put in a scottish one....

... you get BBC Scotland as your prime channels. At least then the
main BBC news isn't identical to the local news.

You mean the main BBC news is identical to the London news :-)

Scott wrote:

Is the satellite within range of Scotland or would this need to be
done from by a naval vessel at sea nearer the equator :-)

More seriously, I don't know what the uplink footprint for a satellite is ?
Astra for instance uplinked to from London, Hampshire, Herts, and Luxmemburg.
Not sure if the uplink footprint is the same as the downlink ?

You may remember last year persons unknown zapped one of the transponders used
by Al Jazeera during the Egyptian uprising.

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On 25/08/2012 17:31, Scott wrote:



when you set up freesat it asks for your postcode - if you're daft
enough to put in a scottish one....

What is the purpose of the postcode? Is it to confirm eligibility or
just to predict user preferences? Anyway I'm sure my Glasgow postcode
is SW4 ...



so you can have your local flavour of bbc 1,2 and itv on 101,102,103
the rest lurk up in the 900s

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.