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Old August 4th 12, 07:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Scott[_4_]
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I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD. 22.2 sound. Stunning!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ision-olympics

It seems the sets are out of stock on Amazon at present. I'll try
again after the Olympics are finished :-)
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Old August 4th 12, 07:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 04/08/2012 18:34, Scott wrote:
I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD. 22.2 sound. Stunning!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ision-olympics

It seems the sets are out of stock on Amazon at present. I'll try
again after the Olympics are finished :-)



By the time they hit the consumer market the transmission of the content
will be so bit rate limited that it will just about give the same
viewing quality as SD today.

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Old August 5th 12, 12:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Richard Tobin
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In article ,
Scott wrote:

I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD.


Pixels != detail. Our existing HD could be far better with more
bandwidth. Adding more pixels would just be a way to sell more
TVs - it seems the industry can't survive unless we buy a new one
every year or so.

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Old August 5th 12, 09:01 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Conspiracy theorists would have you believe that this is going to be used
purely on satellite platforms andhence a tie up with Sky will be required,
giving the governmebnt a reason to let Sky and the BBC merge and do away
with the licence fee in favour of subscription.

Brian

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD. 22.2 sound. Stunning!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ision-olympics

It seems the sets are out of stock on Amazon at present. I'll try
again after the Olympics are finished :-)



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Old August 5th 12, 10:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Richard Tobin
wrote:
In article , Scott
wrote:


I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD.


Pixels != detail. Our existing HD could be far better with more
bandwidth. Adding more pixels would just be a way to sell more TVs - it
seems the industry can't survive unless we buy a new one every year or
so.


I heard a discussion about this on the radio. (Can't now remember which
programme.) What interested me was the comments implying that a large part
of what made the experience so 'real' was the improved audio, using many
channels to get a better 'soundscape' to match the visuals.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old August 5th 12, 11:29 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Scott" wrote in message
...
I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD. 22.2 sound. Stunning!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ision-olympics

It seems the sets are out of stock on Amazon at present. I'll try
again after the Olympics are finished :-)


22:2 sound?
Any idea how big the individual speakers are?
I have this picture of a room with nothing in it but a TV, surround amp, and
speakers because there's no room for anything else.
Oh, a small stool in the centre at the focus of ther audio, perhaps.

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Old August 5th 12, 01:08 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , David WE Roberts
wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
...
I saw the Super High Definition demonstration today. 16 times more
detail than HD. 22.2 sound. Stunning!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ision-olympics

It seems the sets are out of stock on Amazon at present. I'll try
again after the Olympics are finished :-)


22:2 sound? Any idea how big the individual speakers are? I have this
picture of a room with nothing in it but a TV, surround amp, and
speakers because there's no room for anything else. Oh, a small stool in
the centre at the focus of ther audio, perhaps.


I don't know the details, so am guessing. But the '22' may be like old ways
to generate 'stereo' by having a line or wall of small speakers. If so, it
can work very well, and mean you don't need to sit in a small 'sweet spot'
region to get good audio 'images' of what is presented. The snag is needing
many speaker units and amps. But set against that, each individual speaker
unit and amp can be lower power as the outputs combine coherently at the
listening position.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old August 5th 12, 02:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I don't know the details, so am guessing.

No cigar.

AIUI there are 3 layers of channels (lower/middle/upper) to give both
better horizontal resolution (and cope with the wider vbiewing angle NHK
spec'd for ultra-high definition) and to add vertical resolution.
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Old August 5th 12, 04:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Robin wrote:
I don't know the details, so am guessing.


No cigar.


AIUI there are 3 layers of channels (lower/middle/upper) to give both


You'd need to define "layers" before I can tell what you mean.

better horizontal resolution (and cope with the wider vbiewing angle NHK
spec'd for ultra-high definition) and to add vertical resolution.


That implies it provides altitude angles as well as azimuth. But doesn't
tell me if my (guessed!) description was wrong or not. However what you
describe does seem consistent with the old 'wall' of speakers I was
referring to.

Slainte,

Jim

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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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Old August 5th 12, 05:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 05/08/2012 08:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
Conspiracy theorists would have you believe that this is going to be used
purely on satellite platforms andhence a tie up with Sky will be required,
giving the governmebnt a reason to let Sky and the BBC merge and do away
with the licence fee in favour of subscription.

Brian




given that even japan won't have a set that can cope with it on sale
until 2022 i think you worry too much.

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