Sound

I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Brian

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In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and
brash. Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home
entertainment devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a
surround system or whatever to make it worth while. Are there any
reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of bolts rattling
in a plastic tuppaware box?

Of course not. Loud speaker technology has barely changed over the years,
so there is no cheap way of making decent ones. And those decent ones tend
to take up space - most seem to want a TV barely bigger than the screen.
Resulting in the nasty speakers fitted sounding even nastier - due to not
pointing at you. Because sadly the laws of sound propagation haven't
changed either.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Brian

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Even in the days when TV sets were cavernous wooden cabinets, the
sound people I met in the TV broadcasting industry used to wonder what
the point was of their high standards when receiver standards were
often so poor. It wasn't uncommon for recievers to pick up Radio
Moscow in the 49m band.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Brian

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I find small Samsung TVs have good sound. I don't know about large TVs
as I haven't got any/

Steve

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and
brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system
or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Even in the days when TV sets were cavernous wooden cabinets, the
sound people I met in the TV broadcasting industry used to wonder what
the point was of their high standards when receiver standards were
often so poor. It wasn't uncommon for recievers to pick up Radio
Moscow in the 49m band.

They had to put the speaker right at the back so as not to upset the
electron beams in the tube. Sometimes the speaker could be repositioned
between the left and right (presumably by the installation engineer) so that
it wasn't next to a wall.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:02:33 +0100
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and
brash. Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home
entertainment devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into
a surround system or whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket
of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Brian

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I find small Samsung TVs have good sound. I don't know about large TVs
as I haven't got any/

Steve


From my limited experience, I would agree. Our small Samsung has much
better sound than the bigger Toshiba. I bought a set of powered PC
speakers for the Toshiba, which plug into the headphone socket on the
side of the screen frame. I can also plug it into the HiFi, but I have
to unplug something else, and it only sends out of a SCART socket what
the TV antenna input is tuned to. So if I am watching a DVD playing on
a DVD player and plugged in to a SCART socket, I can't send the
sound to the HiFi. Weird. I haven't tried it with an HDMI input yet.
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On 14/07/2012 14:08, Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?

Brian




just get a soundbar - flat tv = flat sound.

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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Probably not. Just give up the search. I gave it up about 40 years ago. If you
want good sound you have to use a sound system. My TV is nothing more than a
display device for various bits of AV gear, and the sound goes through
separate loudspeakers designed for the job. The sound from some TVs can be
best described as not excruciatingly bad, but I've never heard a good one.

In article , Brian Gaff wrote:
I notice that most tvs these days have really awful sound, toppy and brash.
Its a tradition for tvs to be the poor relation of the home entertainment
devices, and I suppose one is supposed to plug it into a surround system or
whatever to make it worth while.
Are there any reasonably priced tvs that do not sound like a bucket of
bolts rattling in a plastic tuppaware box?


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On 14/07/12 15:47, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:
It wasn't uncommon for recievers to pick up Radio
Moscow in the 49m band.

Just reminded me of this Bush set we had in the late 70's that drove us
mad with 'The Woodpecker'

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:29:38 +0100, dave wrote:

On 14/07/12 15:47, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:
It wasn't uncommon for recievers to pick up Radio
Moscow in the 49m band.

Just reminded me of this Bush set we had in the late 70's that drove us
mad with 'The Woodpecker'

A homemade braid-breaker would usually cure it.

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Graham.
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