S4C HD ( Clirlun ) to be ditched at the end of 2012

From:- http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=665

Quote

"As part of the efficiency measures, S4C’s high definition service – Clirlun –
is to be discontinued from the end of this year. The Channel today announced
that the high cost of Clirlun – about £1.5m a year – meant discontinuing the
service was unavoidable. The Authority has also identified that Clirlun as a
service is not able to deliver value for money for S4C’s audience in the
current climate.

Ian Jones, S4C’s Chief Executive, said, “The decision comes in the wake of the
considerable reduction in our public funding. There’s no way of avoiding such
a decision made inevitable because of the 36% reduction in our budget in real
terms. It’s important we invest the greatest proportion of our budget in
content in order to ensure value for money and in order to offer the best
programme service to our viewers. "

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Presumably to be replaced on the HD Mux in Wales by C4 HD ?

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On 11/07/2012 17:45, Mark Carver wrote:
From:- http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=665

Quote

"As part of the efficiency measures, S4C’s high definition service –
Clirlun – is to be discontinued from the end of this year. The Channel
today announced that the high cost of Clirlun – about £1.5m a year –
meant discontinuing the service was unavoidable. The Authority has also
identified that Clirlun as a service is not able to deliver value for
money for S4C’s audience in the current climate.

Ian Jones, S4C’s Chief Executive, said, “The decision comes in the wake
of the considerable reduction in our public funding. There’s no way of
avoiding such a decision made inevitable because of the 36% reduction in
our budget in real terms. It’s important we invest the greatest
proportion of our budget in content in order to ensure value for money
and in order to offer the best programme service to our viewers. "

End Quote

Presumably to be replaced on the HD Mux in Wales by C4 HD ?




visited my parents at the weekend. they were watching a choir
competition on s4c - we are welsh but don't speak a word of it.
the people who work for the channel seem to exist in a happy bubble
where the real world economics of tv production don't apply.

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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel? However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days. Not to say its
not a worthy thing to try to preserve the language, but at what cost to
whom?

Brian

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From:- http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=665

Quote

"As part of the efficiency measures, S4C’s high definition service –
Clirlun – is to be discontinued from the end of this year. The Channel
today announced that the high cost of Clirlun – about £1.5m a year – meant
discontinuing the service was unavoidable. The Authority has also
identified that Clirlun as a service is not able to deliver value for
money for S4C’s audience in the current climate.

Ian Jones, S4C’s Chief Executive, said, “The decision comes in the wake of
the considerable reduction in our public funding. There’s no way of
avoiding such a decision made inevitable because of the 36% reduction in
our budget in real terms. It’s important we invest the greatest proportion
of our budget in content in order to ensure value for money and in order
to offer the best programme service to our viewers. "

End Quote

Presumably to be replaced on the HD Mux in Wales by C4 HD ?

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:52:30 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

On 11/07/2012 17:45, Mark Carver wrote:
From:- http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=665

Quote

"As part of the efficiency measures, S4C’s high definition service –
Clirlun – is to be discontinued from the end of this year. The Channel
today announced that the high cost of Clirlun – about £1.5m a year –

We're living/trapped in the S4C reception area, trust me, if you're at
all interested that is, watch out for a last minute bail out injection
of huge sums of public money from the idiots in Cardiff to "save" the
service - and all the paperwork will be bilingual and hang the
expense....

On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 09:02:19h +0100, Brian Gaff pondered:

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel? However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days.

You are forgetting that most of the programs are available with
English sub-titles, so the excuse that nobody understands what
people are saying is just FUD.

On 2012-07-12, J G Miller wrote:
On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 09:02:19h +0100, Brian Gaff pondered:

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel? However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days.

You are forgetting that most of the programs are available with
English sub-titles, so the excuse that nobody understands what
people are saying is just FUD.

That doesn't mean anyone is watching it, though.

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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 09:02:19h +0100, Brian Gaff pondered:

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel? However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days.

You are forgetting that most of the programs are available with
English sub-titles, so the excuse that nobody understands what
people are saying is just FUD.

I don't see how Celtic speakers can benefit from English subtitled
programmes unless they stick tape to the screen or switch to an overscanning
mode. Their eyes would always be wandering to the subtitles.

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Max Demian

"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 09:02:19h +0100, Brian Gaff pondered:

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel?
However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days.

You are forgetting that most of the programs are available with
English sub-titles, so the excuse that nobody understands what
people are saying is just FUD.

I don't see how Celtic speakers can benefit from English subtitled
programmes unless they stick tape to the screen or switch to an
overscanning mode. Their eyes would always be wandering to the subtitles.

Surely you can turn if off like the old Ceefax 888?

Paul DS,

On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 14:02:08h +0100,
Paul D Smith wrote:

Surely you can turn if off like the old Ceefax 888?

Exactly -- the modern wonder of DVB is that there is a
subtitles button on the remote and from that you can
select either OFF or from the available languages.

On some stations you can even push the audio button on
the remote and select which language you want to hear,
be it English, French, German etc from the available
sound tracks.

For a while and up until about a year or more ago,
subtitles on ARD Das Erste and ZDF were only available
on DVB by using the teletext sub-titles page.
(Yes, teletext still exists on DVB.)

"Paul D Smith" wrote in message
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Thursday, July 12th, 2012, at 09:02:19h +0100, Brian Gaff pondered:

Could the two broadcasters not collaborate and make one channel?
However,
who actually watches Welsh Language programming these days.

You are forgetting that most of the programs are available with
English sub-titles, so the excuse that nobody understands what
people are saying is just FUD.

I don't see how Celtic speakers can benefit from English subtitled
programmes unless they stick tape to the screen or switch to an
overscanning mode. Their eyes would always be wandering to the subtitles.

Surely you can turn if off like the old Ceefax 888?

I suppose so. I only saw something like it - I think it was Gaelic rather
than Welsh - on some kind of Interweb catch-up service, and those don't have
optional subtitles AFAIK.

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Max Demian