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Old May 6th 12, 11:56 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Firth
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

harry wrote:

I thought


There's a first time for everything.
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Old May 6th 12, 11:56 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote:

For the same reason in reverse, dark-skinned people living in
temperate regions are becoming subject to rickets.


The early research on the subject (1970s) showed that rickets was most
prevalent among relatively fair skinned immigrants to the UK. That is
among people originating from the India and Pakistan. The problem was
not just lack of exposure to sunlight, nor of wearing enveloping
clothing, it was largely due to diet. There's no culture of eating oily
fish, food is often cooked in ghee (clarified butter) which has a low
vitamin A and D content or even worse using synthetic ghee which had
none. Then to compound the problem the wholewheat flour used for making
flat bread contains phytates that absorb vitamin D from the gut and
fibre that hastens gut transport and reduces the time available to
absorb vitamin D from the dietary intake.

Much of this research was ignored because it was considered racist to
suggest that there could be variations in nutrition associated with
country of origin or culture. There's Canadian research that shows that
even among individuals originating from the Punjab who spend time in the
open air and expose themselves to sunlight that their serum vitamin D
levels are below those of a control group of white individuals, which
gives a strong indication that diet is playing a significant role.

What is sad is that concerns of political correctness have ensure that
little research is done on the subject and that almost no action is
taken to correct the problem.
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Old May 6th 12, 02:26 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
Grimly Curmudgeon[_2_]
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:56:27 +0100, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Much of this research was ignored because it was considered racist to
suggest that there could be variations in nutrition associated with
country of origin or culture. There's Canadian research that shows that
even among individuals originating from the Punjab who spend time in the
open air and expose themselves to sunlight that their serum vitamin D
levels are below those of a control group of white individuals, which
gives a strong indication that diet is playing a significant role.

What is sad is that concerns of political correctness have ensure that
little research is done on the subject and that almost no action is
taken to correct the problem.


Jeezus, what kind of wooly-minded ****** would consider such research
or conclusions racist?
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Old May 6th 12, 03:50 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

En el artículo , Grimly
Curmudgeon escribió:

Jeezus, what kind of wooly-minded ****** would consider such research
or conclusions racist?


There's some very strange people out there whose mission is life is to
be offended on behalf of someone else.

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Old May 6th 12, 03:52 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Firth
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:56:27 +0100, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Much of this research was ignored because it was considered racist to
suggest that there could be variations in nutrition associated with
country of origin or culture. There's Canadian research that shows that
even among individuals originating from the Punjab who spend time in the
open air and expose themselves to sunlight that their serum vitamin D
levels are below those of a control group of white individuals, which
gives a strong indication that diet is playing a significant role.

What is sad is that concerns of political correctness have ensure that
little research is done on the subject and that almost no action is
taken to correct the problem.


Jeezus, what kind of wooly-minded ****** would consider such research
or conclusions racist?


Largely the woolly minded editorial panels of peer-reviewed journals
that tend to reject papers that have a perceived racial or ethnic
element. There also used to be great difficulty publishing papers that
demonstrated that some national groups have differences in liver enzymes
that affect how they metabolise drugs. The observation is
non-controversial when applied to mice - I spent some of my early career
documenting the differences in liver enzymes between different strains
of mice - and very controversial when applied to humans. The science is
the same; the only difference is in the mind of the reviewer.

The reasons are probably down to the racist use of genetics in the 1930s
to 1950s when science was warped to fit a clearly racist agenda.
Genetics has a particularly unpleasant history, having being used to
support discrimination against blacks, extermination of the "feeble
minded" and of course the holocaust. So it's perhaps understandable why
the editors tend to be a bit sensitive. However they take it way too far
and in consequence are suppressing research that is intended to aid the
people that the editors think they are protecting.


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Old May 6th 12, 04:03 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
ARWadsworth
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Grimly
Curmudgeon escribió:

Jeezus, what kind of wooly-minded ****** would consider such
research or conclusions racist?


There's some very strange people out there whose mission is life is to
be offended on behalf of someone else.


dennis?

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Old May 6th 12, 05:58 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-doseradiation

On Sunday, May 6th, 2012, at 14:52:08h +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

Genetics has a particularly unpleasant history, having being used to
support discrimination against blacks, extermination of the "feeble
minded" and of course the holocaust.


According to Wikipedia

QUOTE

91–93% of pregnancies in Europe with a diagnosis of Down syndrome were terminated.

In the United States a number of studies have examined the abortion rate of fetuses
with Down syndrome. Three studies estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and
87% respectively.[73]

UNQUOTE

Best to kill 'em before they have even been born, eh?

If a simple test can also be developed for autism, should the unborn
who test positive also be killed like those with Down syndrome?

Then people who no longer have the unpleasantness of dealing
with imbeciles.

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Old May 6th 12, 06:05 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

En el artículo , ARWadsworth [email protected]
blueyonder.co.uk escribió:

dennis?


Going on the evidence in here thus far, most probably yes.

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Old May 6th 12, 06:17 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.tech.digital-tv
ARWadsworth
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

J G Miller wrote:
On Sunday, May 6th, 2012, at 14:52:08h +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

Genetics has a particularly unpleasant history, having being used to
support discrimination against blacks, extermination of the "feeble
minded" and of course the holocaust.


According to Wikipedia

QUOTE

91-93% of pregnancies in Europe with a diagnosis of Down syndrome
were terminated.

In the United States a number of studies have examined the
abortion rate of fetuses with Down syndrome. Three studies
estimated the termination rates at 95%, 98%, and 87%
respectively.[73]

UNQUOTE

Best to kill 'em before they have even been born, eh?


Yes.

If a simple test can also be developed for autism, should the unborn
who test positive also be killed like those with Down syndrome?


Depends if you want a child who is a good card player or not.

Then people who {sp will?}no longer have the unpleasantness of dealing
with imbeciles.


There are plenty of non autistic and non down sydrome imbeciles.


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Old May 6th 12, 06:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Tomlinson
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Default OT but interesting: a paper on the risks from low-dose radiation

En el artículo , Peter
Duncanson escribió:

[1] Older workers volunteered to work in the damaged power stations in
place of younger ones on the declared basis that they had less of their
lives left and that even if they died earlier than normal they would
still have lived full lives.


Hara-kiri, just a bit slower.

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