so it's true then...

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 21:42:02h +0100, Mick. wrote:

Yes I did realise that but was wondering "if" there were any plans
to add them to Freeview too?

And where do you think the UHF frequency bandwidth for 5 DVB-t2/MPEG-4
multiplexes would come from?

Hi, I am not technical enough to know what you are on about with that!

While I realise most do like sport, I do not so I am happy that this will
not appear on Freeview.
Mick.

Mick. wrote:

"J G wrote:

Mick. wrote:

wondering "if" there were any planscto add them to Freeview too?

And where do you think the UHF frequency bandwidth for 5 DVB-t2/MPEG-4
multiplexes would come from?

I am not technical enough to know what you are on about

In short, there's hardly enough bandwidth to add one more HD channel to
freeview, let alone 24 more, with the demands for 4G mobile broadband
it's unlikely terrestrial TV will win more frequencies at the expense of
phones/fondleslabs.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:54:32 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 17:34:20h +0000, Tim pondered:

This is the first time I've ever considered getting a dish.

Every home should have one!

Free yourself from the tyranny of the state censors and get
a rotor as well and then you will be able to watch TV from
other European nations, as well as from Asia and Africa,
and even the USofA.

I can't imagine how much time would be wasted trying to find something
worth watching with so many channels. Or is just about counting
channels? Quantity beats quality?

Steve

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 05:07:58 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

UnsteadyKen wrote:

[24 HD satellite Olympic channels]

Wot about SD Olympic channels on Freeview for us poor folk wiffout
flash tellys. We want topless beach volleyball too.

You get a 6x4 grid of mini-screens and a free magnifying glass!

and a complimentary bottle of aspirins.

Steve

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J G Miller wrote:
On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 17:34:20h +0000, Tim pondered:

This is the first time I've ever considered getting a dish.

Every home should have one!


Well that's okay but then my house would look like a council house. ;-)

Tim

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
Mick. wrote:

"J G wrote:

Mick. wrote:

wondering "if" there were any planscto add them to Freeview too?

And where do you think the UHF frequency bandwidth for 5 DVB-t2/MPEG-4
multiplexes would come from?

I am not technical enough to know what you are on about

In short, there's hardly enough bandwidth to add one more HD channel to
freeview, let alone 24 more, with the demands for 4G mobile broadband it's
unlikely terrestrial TV will win more frequencies at the expense of
phones/fondleslabs.

Thank you for the explanation, it has helped.

Mick.

In article , Stephen
Wolstenholme scribeth thus
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:54:32 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 17:34:20h +0000, Tim pondered:

This is the first time I've ever considered getting a dish.

Every home should have one!

Free yourself from the tyranny of the state censors and get
a rotor as well and then you will be able to watch TV from
other European nations, as well as from Asia and Africa,
and even the USofA.

The US eh and Asia?, what here in England and direct from the states via
domestic satellite how?.

I can't imagine how much time would be wasted trying to find something
worth watching with so many channels. Or is just about counting
channels? Quantity beats quality?

Indeed;!(...


Steve


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On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:00:52 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:40:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:54:32 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 17:34:20h +0000, Tim pondered:

This is the first time I've ever considered getting a dish.

Every home should have one!

Free yourself from the tyranny of the state censors and get
a rotor as well and then you will be able to watch TV from
other European nations, as well as from Asia and Africa,
and even the USofA.

I can't imagine how much time would be wasted trying to find something
worth watching with so many channels.

The same applies to Freeview, Freesat and cable TV, despite which one
soon learns which channels have material that is worth watching.

Or is just about counting
channels? Quantity beats quality?

Quantity increases the chances of finding quality.

I haven't the time to search!

Steve

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:26:32 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:45:12 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 21:42:02h +0100, Mick. wrote:

Yes I did realise that but was wondering "if" there were any plans
to add them to Freeview too?

And where do you think the UHF frequency bandwidth for 5 DVB-t2/MPEG-4
multiplexes would come from?

All the crappy advert channels?

All channels that show adverts make their money from advertisers. The
programme content is just there to attract viewers to the adverts so
that some viewers will buy the goods and services advertised.
Except on subscription channels the programme content is given away
completely free to viewers.

"Crappy advert channels" are presumably finincially successful. If such
a channel stops attracting viewers who watch the adverts and then buy
the goods and services advertised the channel will go out of business.

The majority of viewers might not watch such an channel and might agree
with your description of "crappy" but if the channel can attract enough
viewers then the channel can operate as a successful business activity.

It's like magazines in a newsagents. You and I may not be interested in
most of them and consider some to be rubbish, but if they are attracting
enough sales to make a profit then they will continue to be published.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:36:33 +0100, Graham Murray
wrote:

J G Miller writes:

On Saturday, April 28th, 2012, at 21:42:02h +0100, Mick. wrote:

Yes I did realise that but was wondering "if" there were any plans
to add them to Freeview too?

And where do you think the UHF frequency bandwidth for 5 DVB-t2/MPEG-4
multiplexes would come from?

From the frequencies released during DSO! Pre DSO there were 5 analogue
channels plus (at main transmitters) 6 MUXes. Post DSO there are just 6
MUXes, which leaves 5 unused frequencies - either those used either by
the old analogue channels or, where a MUX moved to the frequency
previously used by analogue, by the pre-DSO MUXes.

The 6 pre-DSO MUXes were not using spare frequencies. They operated at
low power on frequencies that were not normally useable because they
would have interfered with the 5 analogue channels. As I understand it,
the power of the 6 MUXes was kept low enough that the interference they
caused to the analogue channels was not noticeable.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)