TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,

TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,



Annette Crosbie speaks about this on page 15 of the Mails Weekend magazine
of 7th April 2012.



Thank you Annette for bringing to programme controller's attention this very
real problem with the music level being so loud it drowns out the speech.

Many films are made with this problem too, the only way I can try and follow
them is to reduce the sound to lower the music but then need sub titles to
follow the programme!

We are told they match the music to the mood on the programme, but having to
use subs kills all that Is this how programme makers really want us to watch
their programmes?

Mick.

In message , Mick.
writes
TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,



Annette Crosbie speaks about this on page 15 of the Mails Weekend magazine
of 7th April 2012.



Thank you Annette for bringing to programme controller's attention this very
real problem with the music level being so loud it drowns out the speech.

Many films are made with this problem too, the only way I can try and follow
them is to reduce the sound to lower the music but then need sub titles to
follow the programme!

We are told they match the music to the mood on the programme, but having to
use subs kills all that Is this how programme makers really want us to watch
their programmes?

What with unwanted background noises and wobbly cameras, you do indeed
get the impression that those involved in making TV programmes have
little interest in the people who are expected to watch the results of
their work. One can only assume that they do it for some sort of
self-satisfaction.
--
Ian

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:24:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

What with unwanted background noises and wobbly cameras, you do indeed
get the impression that those involved in making TV programmes have
little interest in the people who are expected to watch the results of
their work. One can only assume that they do it for some sort of
self-satisfaction.

Hence: ******s, the lot of 'em!
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

A lot of it is the mix that is sent out. I suspect the people making the
stuff have sophisticated multi channel output and nobody actually checks the
mono or stereo feed mix in most systems.
Its becoming an issue in CSI New York recently.

I guess they are just b trying to do too much and not looking at the normal
way of listening.
Brian

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in the display name may be lost.
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TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,



Annette Crosbie speaks about this on page 15 of the Mails Weekend magazine
of 7th April 2012.



Thank you Annette for bringing to programme controller's attention this
very real problem with the music level being so loud it drowns out the
speech.

Many films are made with this problem too, the only way I can try and
follow them is to reduce the sound to lower the music but then need sub
titles to follow the programme!

We are told they match the music to the mood on the programme, but having
to use subs kills all that Is this how programme makers really want us to
watch their programmes?

Mick.

On 08/04/2012 07:54, Mick. wrote:
TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,



Annette Crosbie speaks about this on page 15 of the Mails Weekend magazine
of 7th April 2012.



Thank you Annette for bringing to programme controller's attention this very
real problem with the music level being so loud it drowns out the speech.

It's good that more influential people do this, although the BBC already
know having run an intensive survey and rewritten the guidelines.

If more folk complained to the BBC of infringements of the guidelines
they might do something to more strictly enforce them. Though the
modern BBC doesn't want engineers and Quality Assessment of programmes
before transmission went out the door long, long ago.

Richard

Of course it will depend on the progs you view, but I can't say it's a
regular occurrence. Quite rare on the stuff I view, actually.

But I feed the line output of my TV into a decent external amp and
speakers - so don't have any of the processing pitfalls so many modern
sets may provide.

It would help if some actual examples were given so I could check to see
if it's the same here. Obviously it depends on your own preferences too -
some just hate background music regardless of the relative levels.

--
*Toilet stolen from police station. Cops have nothing to go on.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:54:55 +0100
"Mick." wrote:

TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,



Annette Crosbie speaks about this on page 15 of the Mails Weekend
magazine of 7th April 2012.



Thank you Annette for bringing to programme controller's attention
this very real problem with the music level being so loud it drowns
out the speech.

Many films are made with this problem too, the only way I can try and
follow them is to reduce the sound to lower the music but then need
sub titles to follow the programme!

We are told they match the music to the mood on the programme, but
having to use subs kills all that Is this how programme makers really
want us to watch their programmes?

Mick.





I also hate it when they either whisper, or have the speech coming from
a telephone, both instances mean I can't hear it.
--
Davey.

On 4/8/2012 6:04 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Of course it will depend on the progs you view, but I can't say it's a
regular occurrence. Quite rare on the stuff I view, actually.

But I feed the line output of my TV into a decent external amp and
speakers - so don't have any of the processing pitfalls so many modern
sets may provide.

It would help if some actual examples were given so I could check to see
if it's the same here. Obviously it depends on your own preferences too -
some just hate background music regardless of the relative levels.

I don't mind _background_ music - what I dislike is _foreground_ music
making it difficult to hear the actors!!!

In article ,
Martin wrote:
Try watching almost any BBC science programme.

On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:04:06 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Of course it will depend on the progs you view, but I can't say it's a
regular occurrence. Quite rare on the stuff I view, actually.

But I feed the line output of my TV into a decent external amp and
speakers - so don't have any of the processing pitfalls so many modern
sets may provide.

It would help if some actual examples were given so I could check to see
if it's the same here. Obviously it depends on your own preferences too -
some just hate background music regardless of the relative levels.

I'd say you fit into the category of one who hates any background music
regardless of the balance between it and dialogue.

--
*Time is what keeps everything from happening at once.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , Davey
writes
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:54:55 +0100
"Mick." wrote:

TV Background noise (Music louder that the speech) problem,





I also hate it when they either whisper, or have the speech coming from
a telephone, both instances mean I can't hear it.

I'm by no means deaf. However, I often turn the subtitles on -
especially when I'm dual-tasking - ie watching TV while using the
computer. This means I don't have to concentrate so hard to follow the
TV dialogue. I also make a lot of use of the video recorder in the watch
& record (timeshift) mode, so that if I don't catch what was said, I can
do a quick rewind to the bit I missed, then continue.
--
Ian