Proof at last

On Saturday, April 7th, 2012, at 11:21:17h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

But I suspect few actually *read* it, and absorbed the contents properly !

People do not have time to read these things when there are more important things
which have to be done viz watching Emmerdale, Coronation Street, and Eastenders,
and after you have had a few down at the local, it just don't make much sense.

Anyways, there is an English traditional belief that these things will sort
themselves out by themselves so there is no need to actually do anything.

The second point is illustrated by this item in our local rag - Surrey
Mirror, Thursday 5th April:

Quote

The compulsory Digital Switchover officially began yesterday.
The switch-over will take place in two stages with BBC2 going digital on
April 4 while the remaining analogue channels follow on April 18.

Unquote. (The punctuation is theirs, not mine).

They obviously have a clear understanding of the process

Another John.

On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:49:54 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/Daily%20Mirror.jpg

Proof--

-- that the media is Londoncentric

-- that journos write a load of arse

-- that Londoners are far more stupid than the rest of us (the bit of the
article marked in red).

I don't quite understand why they had to effect the switch in two phases
with a fortnight in between but if it was to alert digital ignoramuses [1]
(and refuseniks) I would have thought they would switch off a more popular
channel like ITV1 - especially as it's ITV1's analogue transmitter that was
(effectively) switched off.

[1] I know that 'ignoramus' is a bit strong, but I can't find a weaker word.
I've found the following synonyms:

blockhead, dimwit, dunce, fool, idiot, imbecile, know-nothing, moron,
numbskull, addlebrain, blunderer, bonehead, botcher, bumbler, butcher,
butterfingers, clod, clumsy oaf, dolt, donkey, duffer, featherbrain,
foul-up, fumbler, goof off, goofball, harebrain, incompetent, klutz,
mismanager, muddler, muffer, screw up, spoiler

- which are all rather strong. I wonder why there isn't a word meaning
someone who is only slightly ignorant about a specific matter and it isn't
really their fault?

Does "ill-informed" meet your needs?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:49:54 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/Daily%20Mirror.jpg

Proof--

-- that the media is Londoncentric

-- that journos write a load of arse

-- that Londoners are far more stupid than the rest of us (the bit of
the
article marked in red).

I don't quite understand why they had to effect the switch in two phases
with a fortnight in between but if it was to alert digital ignoramuses [1]
(and refuseniks) I would have thought they would switch off a more popular
channel like ITV1 - especially as it's ITV1's analogue transmitter that
was
(effectively) switched off.

[1] I know that 'ignoramus' is a bit strong, but I can't find a weaker
word.
I've found the following synonyms:

blockhead, dimwit, dunce, fool, idiot, imbecile, know-nothing, moron,
numbskull, addlebrain, blunderer, bonehead, botcher, bumbler, butcher,
butterfingers, clod, clumsy oaf, dolt, donkey, duffer, featherbrain,
foul-up, fumbler, goof off, goofball, harebrain, incompetent, klutz,
mismanager, muddler, muffer, screw up, spoiler

- which are all rather strong. I wonder why there isn't a word meaning
someone who is only slightly ignorant about a specific matter and it isn't
really their fault?

Does "ill-informed" meet your needs?

That's about the right tone, but I needed a noun to go after 'digital'.

--
Max Demian

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Saturday, April 7th, 2012, at 10:49:54h +0100, Max Demian pondered:

I would have thought they would switch off a more popular
channel like ITV1

There is a very simple reason why this was not done -- it would
have affected the advertising revenue of the commercial TV companies
and this would not have been tolerated by the management or stockholders.

They should have put out a warning message to re-tune VCRs or VideoPlus
won't work.

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Max Demian

In message , Max Demian
writes
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:49:54 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/Daily%20Mirror.jpg

Proof--

-- that the media is Londoncentric

-- that journos write a load of arse

-- that Londoners are far more stupid than the rest of us (the bit of
the
article marked in red).

I don't quite understand why they had to effect the switch in two phases
with a fortnight in between but if it was to alert digital ignoramuses [1]
(and refuseniks) I would have thought they would switch off a more popular
channel like ITV1 - especially as it's ITV1's analogue transmitter that
was
(effectively) switched off.

[1] I know that 'ignoramus' is a bit strong, but I can't find a weaker
word.
I've found the following synonyms:

blockhead, dimwit, dunce, fool, idiot, imbecile, know-nothing, moron,
numbskull, addlebrain, blunderer, bonehead, botcher, bumbler, butcher,
butterfingers, clod, clumsy oaf, dolt, donkey, duffer, featherbrain,
foul-up, fumbler, goof off, goofball, harebrain, incompetent, klutz,
mismanager, muddler, muffer, screw up, spoiler

- which are all rather strong. I wonder why there isn't a word meaning
someone who is only slightly ignorant about a specific matter and it isn't
really their fault?

Does "ill-informed" meet your needs?

That's about the right tone, but I needed a noun to go after 'digital'.

Consumer.
--
Ian

On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:58:52 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:49:54 +0100, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/Daily%20Mirror.jpg

Proof--

-- that the media is Londoncentric

-- that journos write a load of arse

-- that Londoners are far more stupid than the rest of us (the bit of
the
article marked in red).

I don't quite understand why they had to effect the switch in two phases
with a fortnight in between but if it was to alert digital ignoramuses [1]
(and refuseniks) I would have thought they would switch off a more popular
channel like ITV1 - especially as it's ITV1's analogue transmitter that
was
(effectively) switched off.

[1] I know that 'ignoramus' is a bit strong, but I can't find a weaker
word.
I've found the following synonyms:

blockhead, dimwit, dunce, fool, idiot, imbecile, know-nothing, moron,
numbskull, addlebrain, blunderer, bonehead, botcher, bumbler, butcher,
butterfingers, clod, clumsy oaf, dolt, donkey, duffer, featherbrain,
foul-up, fumbler, goof off, goofball, harebrain, incompetent, klutz,
mismanager, muddler, muffer, screw up, spoiler

- which are all rather strong. I wonder why there isn't a word meaning
someone who is only slightly ignorant about a specific matter and it isn't
really their fault?

Does "ill-informed" meet your needs?

That's about the right tone, but I needed a noun to go after 'digital'.

Is "novice" heading in the right direction?

The noun "non-sophisticate" is perhaps a bit too fancy.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:56:40 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11023364/Daily%20Mirror.jpg

Proof--

-- that the media is Londoncentric

-- that journos write a load of arse

-- that Londoners are far more stupid than the rest of us (the bit of
the article marked in red).

Bill

The article is pretty much par for the course, and I would have only
commented on the picture caption that strongly implies that existing
aerials will all become redundent.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Well, as you say, cannot tell yer, as pictures in jpeg are not very helpful.
Neither are the new adobe Digital Editions which is such a buggy piece of
software its ridiculous.

With regard to switchover.
I have had nothing but hassle since the message to do an auto retune on the
4th.
So far. channels going missing completely. Duplicate channels. No radio
channels, the duplicate ones again. Then channels that say they are there,
but have no signal, please check aerial. Then box saying, due to inactivity
I'm going into standby and locking out the remote and going into standby
and no coming out till you pull the plug and put it back in again.
None of this was there before the 4th April. the goodmans box seems to be
getting a mind of its own and I've had to retune 5 times so far to keep all
the channels working but the program guede is a fiasco, being missing on
many channels.
I suspect the software in the smart talk box has never been challenged very
much in normal use before!

Brian

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Proof at last that people are picture centric, and that text is a dying
art.. grin.

I can't find the online version on the Daily Mirror website for you, but
actually, the only severe bit of journalistic ********, is a picture of a
Group A contract Yagi, and the title, "GONE TO POT: Old style TV aerial".

I'm not convinced the disappearance of BBC2 analogue prompted all of the
30,000 calls, I suspect 90%+ were because *digital* BBC had vanished, and
they didn't know their DTT kit required a rescan and/or knew how to.

Although, with the move of ITV analogue to where BBC 2 was, I suspect
there are plenty of thickos thinking, 'blimey, BBC 2 is suddenly showing
some good stuff now' !

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Brian Gaff wrote:

pictures in jpeg are not very helpful.
Neither are the new adobe Digital Editions which is such a buggy piece of
software its ridiculous.

Only used it once or twice to "checkout" an e-book from an e-library,
seemed to work.

Maybe http://bilbary.com will make things simpler (ex waterstone's
chap Tim Coates trying to shake up sale/loan/rental of e-books)

With regard to switchover. I have had nothing but hassle

Give it 10 days or so ...