Grundig Lenaro

Hi,
As a newbie I hope I'm not asking something that has been discussed before.

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.

Thanks
TonyB

"TonyB" wrote in message
...
Hi,
As a newbie I hope I'm not asking something that has been discussed
before.

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.

There is an old thread about it which probably isn't very helpful.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-l...v-freezes.html

--
JohnT

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:07:36 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

Hi,
As a newbie I hope I'm not asking something that has been discussed before.

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.

Thanks
TonyB
Roughly where are you, and do you know the name of the transmitter
that serves you?
If not, are the elements of your aerial vertical or horizontal, in and
which direction does it point?


--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Sounds like the following to me. This is from the London Crystal
Palace DSO doc, but the same or very similar text is in all the DSO
docs:

"""
Early TVs may not store all channels

Following Freeview’s latest network changes there are now potentially
more than 100 services for Freeview TVs, boxes and recorders to
handle. There can be more than this, if homes also receive extra
signals due to transmitter overlaps. The National Retune of 30
September 2009 revealed some older cathode ray tube Freeview TVs (many
being 2k-only models that will cease to work at switchover) that
cannot store one or two of the available services due to memory
constraints. For some products, over-air software updates were
broadcast last year to reallocate memory in the model but some homes
missed these. Where no updates are available, the use of the “manual
retune” or “favourites” options can enable the viewer to select the
channels they definitely want, and discard those they are not
interested in.
"""

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitt..._1_0_FINAL.pdf

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:07:36 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.
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Thanks for that but I don't think that's the issue. It's not a CRT, it's an
LCD and can store at least 99 channels.

The tip about the tuner being overloaded may be valid though and as soon as
my chest infection is better I'll nip into the loft and bypass the
amplifier.
Regards
TonyB


"Java Jive" wrote in message
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Sounds like the following to me. This is from the London Crystal
Palace DSO doc, but the same or very similar text is in all the DSO
docs:

"""
Early TVs may not store all channels

Following Freeview's latest network changes there are now potentially
more than 100 services for Freeview TVs, boxes and recorders to
handle. There can be more than this, if homes also receive extra
signals due to transmitter overlaps. The National Retune of 30
September 2009 revealed some older cathode ray tube Freeview TVs (many
being 2k-only models that will cease to work at switchover) that
cannot store one or two of the available services due to memory
constraints. For some products, over-air software updates were
broadcast last year to reallocate memory in the model but some homes
missed these. Where no updates are available, the use of the "manual
retune" or "favourites" options can enable the viewer to select the
channels they definitely want, and discard those they are not
interested in.
"""

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitt..._1_0_FINAL.pdf

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:07:36 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop
it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.
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Yes, that's another point made in the same document:

"""
Amplifiers may need to be removed
When transmission powers increase, homes with aerial amplifiers could
experience service loss or picture and sound disturbance due to the
DTT receiver’s tuner being overloaded. Old aerial amplifiers with poor
filtering could also cause video/ audio synchronisation problems where
the receiver trying to read noise as a DTT signal. Removing the
amplifiers should rectify both issues.
"""

BTW, *PARTICULARLY* after a chest infection, be sure to wear a mask
when working in a loft. The dust from the rock fibre commonly used
for loft insulation can cause lung disease.

On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:26:31 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

The tip about the tuner being overloaded may be valid though and as soon as
my chest infection is better I'll nip into the loft and bypass the
amplifier.


"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Sounds like the following to me. This is from the London Crystal
Palace DSO doc, but the same or very similar text is in all the DSO
docs:

"""
Early TVs may not store all channels

Following Freeview's latest network changes there are now potentially
more than 100 services for Freeview TVs, boxes and recorders to
handle. There can be more than this, if homes also receive extra
signals due to transmitter overlaps. The National Retune of 30
September 2009 revealed some older cathode ray tube Freeview TVs (many
being 2k-only models that will cease to work at switchover) that
cannot store one or two of the available services due to memory
constraints. For some products, over-air software updates were
broadcast last year to reallocate memory in the model but some homes
missed these. Where no updates are available, the use of the "manual
retune" or "favourites" options can enable the viewer to select the
channels they definitely want, and discard those they are not
interested in.
"""

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitt..._1_0_FINAL.pdf

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:07:36 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to stop
it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.
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Thanks Java,
I'll take that advice!
TonyB
"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Yes, that's another point made in the same document:

"""
Amplifiers may need to be removed
When transmission powers increase, homes with aerial amplifiers could
experience service loss or picture and sound disturbance due to the
DTT receiver's tuner being overloaded. Old aerial amplifiers with poor
filtering could also cause video/ audio synchronisation problems where
the receiver trying to read noise as a DTT signal. Removing the
amplifiers should rectify both issues.
"""

BTW, *PARTICULARLY* after a chest infection, be sure to wear a mask
when working in a loft. The dust from the rock fibre commonly used
for loft insulation can cause lung disease.

On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:26:31 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

The tip about the tuner being overloaded may be valid though and as soon
as
my chest infection is better I'll nip into the loft and bypass the
amplifier.


"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Sounds like the following to me. This is from the London Crystal
Palace DSO doc, but the same or very similar text is in all the DSO
docs:

"""
Early TVs may not store all channels

Following Freeview's latest network changes there are now potentially
more than 100 services for Freeview TVs, boxes and recorders to
handle. There can be more than this, if homes also receive extra
signals due to transmitter overlaps. The National Retune of 30
September 2009 revealed some older cathode ray tube Freeview TVs (many
being 2k-only models that will cease to work at switchover) that
cannot store one or two of the available services due to memory
constraints. For some products, over-air software updates were
broadcast last year to reallocate memory in the model but some homes
missed these. Where no updates are available, the use of the "manual
retune" or "favourites" options can enable the viewer to select the
channels they definitely want, and discard those they are not
interested in.
"""

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitt..._1_0_FINAL.pdf

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:07:36 +0100, "TonyB"
wrote:

I have a 32" Grundig Lenaro which freezes since the digital
switchover. I
understand it's something to do with the new signal and not
technically
Grundig's fault, but does anyone know how to deal with it?
I've had to retune and cut a load of channels off the list just to
stop
it
freezing up which is obviously unsatisfactory.
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