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Old March 30th 12, 07:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mick.
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

Hi all,

I have a SAMSUNG UE40D5520 40" Full HD LED TV and normally record on
a Humax HDR-FOX T2 Freeview+ HD Twin Tuner with 1TB Recorder.

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!

Am not bothered by the adverts being louder as I always fast forward through
them.



I know I can get text on the screen through the Humax but would rather be
able to hear the speech in the film.

If the music could be done away with that would be fine?



From internet searches I have seen a: Terk VR1 Automatic TV Volume
Controller.

I understand this needs to be connected between the Humax PRV and the TV, so
hopefully with the HDMI lead?



Has anyone tried this please?

Mick.




  #2  
Old March 30th 12, 09:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

In message , Mick.
wrote

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


Which of the TV "sound" settings have you selected?
Does your TV comes with these user options?

Standard: Selects the normal sound mode.
Music: Emphasizes music over voices.
Movie: Provides the best sound for movies.
Clear Voice: Emphasizes voices over other sounds.
Amplify: Increase the intensity of high-frequency sound to allow a
better listening experience for the hearing impaired.

MENU - Sound - Sound Mode - ENTER

Also ensure that the mode is set to A2 Stereo and not NICAM Stereo.

--
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Old March 30th 12, 11:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mick.
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.


"Alan" wrote in message
news
In message , Mick.
wrote

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


Which of the TV "sound" settings have you selected?
Does your TV comes with these user options?

Standard: Selects the normal sound mode.
Music: Emphasizes music over voices.
Movie: Provides the best sound for movies.
Clear Voice: Emphasizes voices over other sounds.
Amplify: Increase the intensity of high-frequency sound to allow a better
listening experience for the hearing impaired.

MENU - Sound - Sound Mode - ENTER

Also ensure that the mode is set to A2 Stereo and not NICAM Stereo.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk


Hi Alan,
Thanks for replying.
The sound choices seem to be for PCM or Dolby Digital, it is on PCM and
Dolby Digital is greyed out.
Auto volume (which helps stop noise levels rising when changing channels
according to the choices) is on Normal other option is Night.or off.

The other thought of trying the set with a live film so not through the
Humax I will try to see what happens.
Thanks,
Mick.


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Old March 30th 12, 11:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mick.
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.


"Mick." wrote in message
...

"Alan" wrote in message
news
In message , Mick.
wrote

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


Which of the TV "sound" settings have you selected?
Does your TV comes with these user options?

Standard: Selects the normal sound mode.
Music: Emphasizes music over voices.
Movie: Provides the best sound for movies.
Clear Voice: Emphasizes voices over other sounds.
Amplify: Increase the intensity of high-frequency sound to allow a better
listening experience for the hearing impaired.

MENU - Sound - Sound Mode - ENTER

Also ensure that the mode is set to A2 Stereo and not NICAM Stereo.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk


Hi Alan,
Thanks for replying.
The sound choices seem to be for PCM or Dolby Digital, it is on PCM and
Dolby Digital is greyed out.
Auto volume (which helps stop noise levels rising when changing channels
according to the choices) is on Normal other option is Night.or off.

The other thought of trying the set with a live film so not through the
Humax I will try to see what happens.
Thanks,
Mick.

Hi, should have added it is set to "Clear Voice".
Mick.


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Old March 31st 12, 01:22 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

In article ,
Mick. wrote:

I have a SAMSUNG UE40D5520 40" Full HD LED TV and normally record
on a Humax HDR-FOX T2 Freeview+ HD Twin Tuner with 1TB Recorder.


I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


It's a fairly typical modern set with very poor sound quality. (Read the
reviews). Speakers need to be of a reasonable size and face forward.

Best option is to use an external amp and speakers. Or use headphones.

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Old March 31st 12, 09:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
PeterC
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:37:49 +0100, Mick. wrote:

"Alan" wrote in message
news
In message , Mick.
wrote

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


Which of the TV "sound" settings have you selected?
Does your TV comes with these user options?

Standard: Selects the normal sound mode.
Music: Emphasizes music over voices.
Movie: Provides the best sound for movies.
Clear Voice: Emphasizes voices over other sounds.
Amplify: Increase the intensity of high-frequency sound to allow a better
listening experience for the hearing impaired.

MENU - Sound - Sound Mode - ENTER

Also ensure that the mode is set to A2 Stereo and not NICAM Stereo.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk


Hi Alan,
Thanks for replying.
The sound choices seem to be for PCM or Dolby Digital, it is on PCM and
Dolby Digital is greyed out.
Auto volume (which helps stop noise levels rising when changing channels
according to the choices) is on Normal other option is Night.or off.


I've tried Auto-volume (on a Sammy UE37C6350, so similar to yours) and,
although it works, the sound does seem weird at times. I might be worth
trying this set to Off.
I've also reduced the MPEG sound by 5 points so that there's not so much of
a change between SD and HD channels. This then has a major effect when using
the Onkyo AVR for the TV (when the programme is worth it), so I still have
to wind the volume up and down. Modern Technology!

--
Peter.
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whilst religions hold sway
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Old March 31st 12, 09:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Mick. wrote:

I have a SAMSUNG UE40D5520 40" Full HD LED TV and normally record
on a Humax HDR-FOX T2 Freeview+ HD Twin Tuner with 1TB Recorder.


I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!


It's a fairly typical modern set with very poor sound quality. (Read the
reviews). Speakers need to be of a reasonable size and face forward.

Best option is to use an external amp and speakers. Or use headphones.

I would have a look at the equaliser settings.

My 16" Linsar obviously has tiny speakers. Despite this, I found that
the sound was muffled and woolly. I immediately went into the menu, and
started experimenting with the equaliser settings. My preferred settings
are with a crazy constantly rising response of -12dB at 120Hz to +12dB
at 10kHz. Now, I know my HF hearing is falling off a bit, but it's
certainly not THAT bad.
--
Ian
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Old March 31st 12, 10:09 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

Hang on a moment. Several thoughts spring to mind here. Firstly, if the
music and the dialogue are set, then I don't see how you can make one louder
than the other. That might be possible if full surround sound encoding of
whatever flavour is being transmitted, but surely in that case some choices
for this should be on one of the menus on the TV Far more likely in my view
is that an inappropriate selection was made by the channel or supplier of
the content and you ar stuck with what they did.
Brian

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"Mick." wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a SAMSUNG UE40D5520 40" Full HD LED TV and normally record on
a Humax HDR-FOX T2 Freeview+ HD Twin Tuner with 1TB Recorder.

I like to watch movies but find following the plot difficult because the
music is normally louder than the speech!

Am not bothered by the adverts being louder as I always fast forward
through them.



I know I can get text on the screen through the Humax but would rather be
able to hear the speech in the film.

If the music could be done away with that would be fine?



From internet searches I have seen a: Terk VR1 Automatic TV Volume
Controller.

I understand this needs to be connected between the Humax PRV and the TV,
so hopefully with the HDMI lead?



Has anyone tried this please?

Mick.






  #9  
Old March 31st 12, 11:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mick.
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Hang on a moment. Several thoughts spring to mind here. Firstly, if the
music and the dialogue are set, then I don't see how you can make one
louder than the other. That might be possible if full surround sound
encoding of whatever flavour is being transmitted, but surely in that case
some choices for this should be on one of the menus on the TV Far more
likely in my view is that an inappropriate selection was made by the
channel or supplier of the content and you ar stuck with what they did.
Brian

Thanks Brian,
For many programmes the sound is good, it is with
Channel 5 afternoon films I mostly find the Music overpowering! but not in
all films only some.
I did buy a Philips sound bar which is not necessary for most programmes,
and does not help with the Music problem in some films.

I will keep the volume down and use the text.
Thanks,
Mick.


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Old March 31st 12, 11:31 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Sound level in films spoiled by the music being louder than the speech.

In article ,
Mick. wrote:
I did buy a Philips sound bar which is not necessary for most
programmes,


Decent sound is necessary for everything.

and does not help with the Music problem in some films.


Some may well have been balanced where the dialogue fights the music. Not
very much you can do about that.

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