"BBC considers archive fees for viewers" -- the inevitable march toPPV

In the quest to Deliver Quality First, the management of the BBC
have made public the option that viewers should be required to pay
in order to access archive material.

With the slow death of linear TV, this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party
of Great Britain has been proposing that the BBC should adopt
for financing.

http://www.bbc.co.UK/ariel/16543840

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BBC considers archive fees for viewers

13 January 2012 Last updated at 11:35

The BBC is considering whether to charge people who want to
watch or listen to archive programmes (outside the iPlayer
catch-up window), as more of its back catalogue becomes
available through digitisation.

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Remember once the infrastructure is in place and more importantly
that people are conditioned into paying for BBC material as PPV,
it is not such a big step to then put in place PPV for "live" material
instead of licence fee payments.

And they have only got until December 31st, 2015 to get it "right".


Key phrases -- tip of the iceberg, thin end of the wedge, genie is out of the bottle.

On 16/01/2012 20:31, J G Miller wrote:
this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party
of Great Britain

What does that have to do with anything? That's the trouble with you
socialists: it's always the fault of the Tories, even when it's not.

In article , Silk wrote:

What does that have to do with anything? That's the trouble with you
socialists: it's always the fault of the Tories, even when it's not.

Don't be silly, socialists agree the New Labour is just as bad, and
sometimes worse.

-- Richard

On Monday, January 16th, 2012, at 20:45:32h +0000, Silk wrote:

On 16/01/2012 20:31, J G Miller wrote:
this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party of Great
Britain

What does that have to do with anything?


2004 A study commissioned by the Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith
says the licence fee should be phased out and and replaced
by a subscription service.


That's the trouble with you socialists: it's always the fault of
the Tories, even when it's not.

That's the trouble with you, you resort to political name
calling without even considering the facts viz as to which party
has consistenly called for the abolition of the licence and
replacement by a subscription or PPV service.

On 16/01/2012 21:00, Richard Tobin wrote:
In , wrote:

What does that have to do with anything? That's the trouble with you
socialists: it's always the fault of the Tories, even when it's not.

Don't be silly, socialists agree the New Labour is just as bad, and
sometimes worse.

Whatever, it was a dumb remark and completely irrelevant. For what it's
worth, I think it's a good idea to have access to archive material that
would otherwise go unwatched. No one is suggesting this would be
anything other than in addition to what's currently available.

On 16/01/2012 22:16, J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, January 16th, 2012, at 20:45:32h +0000, Silk wrote:

On 16/01/2012 20:31, J G Miller wrote:
this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party of Great
Britain

What does that have to do with anything?


2004 A study commissioned by the Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith
says the licence fee should be phased out and and replaced
by a subscription service.


That's the trouble with you socialists: it's always the fault of
the Tories, even when it's not.

That's the trouble with you, you resort to political name
calling without even considering the facts viz as to which party
has consistenly called for the abolition of the licence and
replacement by a subscription or PPV service.

You're quoting one Tory and suddenly there's some great big right-wing
conspiracy. Besides, you're also incorrect as it was a study
"commissioned" buy Iain Duncan Smith.

You'll be blaming Thatcher next, for some random thing or another.

I happen to think the present system of a licence fee is a good one. But
I also think it's an equally good idea to question it once in a while in
the fast moving world we live in.

It's very noticable that young people hardly ever sit down and wait to
watch a TV programme. They simply watch it when they want to by whatever
means available at the time. There's no going back and the BBC needs to
respond.

"J G Miller" wrote in message
...

In the quest to Deliver Quality First, the management of the BBC
have made public the option that viewers should be required to pay
in order to access archive material.

With the slow death of linear TV, this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party
of Great Britain has been proposing that the BBC should adopt
for financing.

http://www.bbc.co.UK/ariel/16543840

QUOTE

BBC considers archive fees for viewers

13 January 2012 Last updated at 11:35

The BBC is considering whether to charge people who want to
watch or listen to archive programmes (outside the iPlayer
catch-up window), as more of its back catalogue becomes
available through digitisation.

UNQUOTE

Remember once the infrastructure is in place and more importantly
that people are conditioned into paying for BBC material as PPV,
it is not such a big step to then put in place PPV for "live" material
instead of licence fee payments.

And they have only got until December 31st, 2015 to get it "right".


Key phrases -- tip of the iceberg, thin end of the wedge, genie is out of
the bottle.


Although given a referendum it could even turn out to be a vote winner, at
the very worst I don't think it would do them that much harm.

"Silk" wrote in message
...
On 16/01/2012 22:16, J G Miller wrote:
On Monday, January 16th, 2012, at 20:45:32h +0000, Silk wrote:

On 16/01/2012 20:31, J G Miller wrote:
this could be the start of
BBC pay-per-view that the Conservative and Unionist Party of Great
Britain

What does that have to do with anything?


2004 A study commissioned by the Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith
says the licence fee should be phased out and and replaced
by a subscription service.


That's the trouble with you socialists: it's always the fault of
the Tories, even when it's not.

That's the trouble with you, you resort to political name
calling without even considering the facts viz as to which party
has consistenly called for the abolition of the licence and
replacement by a subscription or PPV service.

You're quoting one Tory and suddenly there's some great big right-wing
conspiracy. Besides, you're also incorrect as it was a study
"commissioned" buy Iain Duncan Smith.

You'll be blaming Thatcher next, for some random thing or another.

I happen to think the present system of a licence fee is a good one. But I
also think it's an equally good idea to question it once in a while in the
fast moving world we live in.

It's very noticable that young people hardly ever sit down and wait to
watch a TV programme. They simply watch it when they want to by whatever
means available at the time. There's no going back and the BBC needs to
respond.



'The problem with Socialism is that eventually it runs out of other people's
money to spend'.

On 16/01/2012 22:47, J G Miller wrote:
The BBC is considering whether to charge people who want to
watch or listen to archive programmes (outside the iPlayer
catch-up window), as more of its back catalogue becomes
available through digitisation.

Nobody seems to have mentioned that the programmes in the archive have
already been paid for by the licence fee. Why should we have to pay
again to view them?

Surely they could put a regional condition on them such that they are
free in the UK but others would have to pay - yes I know there are smart
Alecs who can fake their country of residence flagged up by their ISP by
using proxy servers, but the rest would have to pay.

Just a thought.

John.

On Monday, January 16th, 2012, at 22:34:14h +0000, Silk wrote:

You're quoting one Tory and suddenly there's some great big right-wing
conspiracy. Besides, you're also incorrect as it was a study
"commissioned" buy Iain Duncan Smith.

That is what I stated.

And of which party is Peter Bone a member?

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2010-11/broadcastingtelevisionlicencefeeabolition.html

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Broadcasting (Television Licence Fee Abolition) Bill 2010-11

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You'll be blaming Thatcher next, for some random thing or another.

Further irrelevant diatribe.