Even M&S are at it

In article , Ian Jackson
writes
In message , John
Legon writes
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Legon wrote:
At the other end of the scale, I bought a 40-inch full HD telly
from Sainsburys last week for £250. Amazing value for money.
Presumably sans HD tuner?

Correct. It doesn't concern me though, since I use the TV with an HD
satellite box. As it turns out, however, the picture quality with SD
Freeview is much better than I thought it would be - especially with
programmes that were originated in HD - so the lack of an HD tuner
wouldn't bother me much even if I didn't have HD on satellite!

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but how the hell can a "Full
HD" telly NOT have an HD tuner?

When its Fool-HD-Ready. ;-)
To misquote Michael MacInty "I know I can't decode a Full-HD signal
off air, but if someone gives one to me, I'm Ready for it."
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:43:55 +0000, nemo wrote:

This is not just an HDMI cable. This is a Marks and Spencer HDMI cable.

http://www.marksandspencer.com/Monst...te-High-Speed/
dp/B004506UR8?
ie=UTF8&ref=sr_1_3&nodeId=42966030&sr=1-3&qid=1325763668&pf_rd_r=1S5FS6QSYA1YKGYD927J&pf_r d_m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_i=0&pf_rd_p=2 15485807&pf_rd_s=center-3

I prefer this one

http://www.poundland.co.uk/product-r...able-for-home-
entertainment/

With HDMI being digital the lead will either work or not!

Ian Jackson wrote:

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but how the hell can a "Full
HD" telly NOT have an HD tuner?

At risk of rising to the bait, doesn't "Full HD" simply refer to the
resolution that the screen can display? Nothing to do with what the
tuner can do, or even whether it's got one.

In my view, the HD, HD Ready and Full HD confusion must count as one of
the classic branding blunders of our time.

--
SteveT

J G Miller wrote:
On Thursday, January 5th, 2012, at 16:23:49h +0000, John Legon wrote:

so the lack of an HD tuner wouldn't bother me much even
if I didn't have HD on satellite!

The problem is though that S4C Clirlun is not yet available
on satellite.

Does anybody know when it will be?

Excepting Welsh speakers, rugby enthusiasts, and presumably you ? does anybody
else care ?


--
Mark
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In article ,
Steve Thackery wrote:

In my view, the HD, HD Ready and Full HD confusion must count as one of
the classic branding blunders of our time.

In what way were they blunders? Surely they have had the desired effect
of selling more products?

-- Richard

Bill Wright wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
lid wrote:
This is not just an HDMI cable. This is a Marks and Spencer HDMI
cable.


For that money, I'd expect it to be delivered personally by Myleene
Klass, with it stuffed down the front of her swim suit.

You're obviously feeling better.

Warf! Warf!


--
Mark
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:33:27 -0600, Richard wrote:

http://www.poundland.co.uk/product-r...able-for-home-
entertainment/

I stand to be corrected, but you need a higher spec HDMI cable for 3D,
someone at work enquired if he could order one from our cable suppler,
price £1.50 sans vat. A retailer could flog it for £5 or £10 & still get a
healthy margin, but if people are willing to pay £40 when they've just
bought the telly you have to do it, harsh business sense.

Daniallo wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:33:27 -0600, Richard wrote:

http://www.poundland.co.uk/product-r...able-for-home-
entertainment/

I stand to be corrected, but you need a higher spec HDMI cable for 3D,

You may need one that can work at higher data rates, the £89 should be
certified to to work, but nothing to say the £1 one won't do the job
anyway ... certainly that's all I use, and it's fine (but I only use
1920x1080p50)

On Thursday, January 5th, 2012, at 19:04:56h +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

Excepting Welsh speakers, rugby enthusiasts, and presumably you ? does
anybody else care ?

You do not have to be able to speak Cymraeg to watch the station since
it provides English sub-titles for most programs.

On Thursday, January 5th, 2012, at 20:04:57h +0000, Daniallo wrote:

I stand to be corrected, but you need a higher spec HDMI cable for 3D

To get automatic switching of the TV to the appropriate 3D mode you need
a v1.4 and of course the player output has to be v1.4 capable.

However if you use a v1.3c cable (most should be of that standard now)
then 3D should still work but you have to push the appropriate buttons
to put the TV into the appropriate 3 mode eg either frame packing,
side by side, or top and bottom.

For some people that is of course too much effort.

Anyways v1.4 cables are available on Amazon UK for about GBP 15,
but they will not make any difference if your satellite box or
Bluray player only has a v1.3 output.

For a list of facilities officially supported by each version,
take a look at the table at

http://en.wikipedia.ORG/wiki/Hdmi