Bedroom TV with good(ish) sound

We have two LG 19" and the sound is awful, a Panny 26" in the
lounge which is moderate but lacking, and a 32" Sharp in the
bedroom which sounds reasonable only because it has plenty of
audio power (10wpc)

We have a M&S 19" in the kitchen - which admittedly we don't have
to have too loud - and it knocks spots off any of the others.



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In article , Tony sayer wrote:
But on the PC where its got a decent sound card and feeding a pair of
Rogers BBC LS3/5A speakers via an Audiolab 8000A its sometimes quite
staggering how good the sound can be in iplayer and via the cheapie
T-DTV adapter...

If you try feeding the headphone output of a typical pocket transistor
radio running from a little 6V or 9V battery into a decent hi-fi
loudspeaker sometimes it's quite staggering how good that can sound. It
just shows which bit of the system makes the most difference and how
unimportant is most of the rest of it.

Rod.
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From: Ian
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 Time: 18:33:43

Looking for a basic 16" or 19" bedroom TV, LED, built-in FreeView. But
it must have a reasonable sound quality -- the cheapies sound very
tinny.

Recommendation anyone?



Thanks everyone for the recommendations and suggestions.

All understood about adding a separate audio amp + speakers/headphones
to get reasonable sound quality. That would suit me fine, but Memsahib
would be definitely unimpressed with that solution -- we already have
enough electronic boxes with miles of cable around the rest of the
house, and the bedroom has to be a haven away from it all!

I plan to go to John Lewis today to experiment with the audio equaliser
on the Linsar 16".

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In message , Ian
writes
From: Ian
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 Time: 18:33:43

Looking for a basic 16" or 19" bedroom TV, LED, built-in FreeView. But
it must have a reasonable sound quality -- the cheapies sound very
tinny.

Recommendation anyone?



Thanks everyone for the recommendations and suggestions.

All understood about adding a separate audio amp + speakers/headphones
to get reasonable sound quality. That would suit me fine, but Memsahib
would be definitely unimpressed with that solution -- we already have
enough electronic boxes with miles of cable around the rest of the
house, and the bedroom has to be a haven away from it all!

I plan to go to John Lewis today to experiment with the audio equaliser
on the Linsar 16".

I'm not sure they still do the model I bought - but I think there's one
with a built-in DVD player. Be aware that while the picture quality is
really good (for a flat screen TV), the viewing angle is definitely
rather narrow (especially up-down). Personally, I'd also try another
make or three.
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On 12/12/2011 06:02, Brian Gaff, probably.. wrote:
Its a tradition with tvs. Most of them from way back had crap sound, tiny
little eliptical speakers abounded and seem to not change much.

My experience too. My Panasonic 37" with some sort of 'megabass' is
atrocious - *really* bad, especially with music. I just connect it to
the hifi.

What I don't understand is why they don't try a bit harder - I have a
JBL ipod dock, flatish and the size of a large saucer, with what look to
be 1cm speakers. It sounds pretty good, and fills a room. For the sake
of a few quid, why can't the TV makers manage it?

Rob

In article om,
Rob wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't try a bit harder - I have a
JBL ipod dock, flatish and the size of a large saucer, with what look to
be 1cm speakers. It sounds pretty good, and fills a room. For the sake
of a few quid, why can't the TV makers manage it?

For the sake of a few quid sums it up.

Basically, TV makers have never given a toss about the sound quality from
the internal speakers - so why would they be bothered now?

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article om,
Rob wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't try a bit harder - I have a
JBL ipod dock, flatish and the size of a large saucer, with what look to
be 1cm speakers. It sounds pretty good, and fills a room. For the sake
of a few quid, why can't the TV makers manage it?

For the sake of a few quid sums it up.


No it doesn't really. It's the size of the box and the saleabilty of the
resultant product. If the majority of Joe (or Jo) public wanted better
sound, manufacturers would provide it.

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In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article om,
Rob wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't try a bit harder - I have a
JBL ipod dock, flatish and the size of a large saucer, with what look to
be 1cm speakers. It sounds pretty good, and fills a room. For the sake
of a few quid, why can't the TV makers manage it?

For the sake of a few quid sums it up.


No it doesn't really. It's the size of the box and the saleabilty of the
resultant product. If the majority of Joe (or Jo) public wanted better
sound, manufacturers would provide it.

The size of the box probably is a very real cost on a TV - to provide a
pair of decent sized forward facing speakers would make it very much
larger, and needs to be solid. And of course fashion dictates they are all
screen *and* slim - so banishing the tiny speakers to the back. With all
that implies.

Of course one or two makers did attempt selling TVs with better than
average speakers - but they were still poor compared to even the most
modest of music centres etc, let alone Hi-Fi.

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From: Ian Jackson
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 Time: 08:16:26

I plan to go to John Lewis today to experiment with the audio
equaliser on the Linsar 16".

I'm not sure they still do the model I bought - but I think there's one
with a built-in DVD player. Be aware that while the picture quality is
really good (for a flat screen TV), the viewing angle is definitely
rather narrow (especially up-down). Personally, I'd also try another
make or three.


Hmmmmm. I went to JL today and saw a Linsar 16". But unfortunately they
had placed it on the bottom shelf, so the vertical viewing angle was
about 45 degrees. Only when I knelt right down to the floor did I see
something approaching a viewable picture. I didn't get as far as
checking out the sound.

I'm going to leave it now until the January sales.

Thanks again for all the comments.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:


The minority who *do* care will get some external audio kit to sort
out the problem. And if you care about sound quality you won't be
deterred by the added boxes, wiring, or cost. Chances are, you'll
happily spend far more on the audio kit than on a mere display. :-)

There's no reason why a TV shouldn't have reasonable power amps and the
ability to use just external speakers

Depends what kind of "reason" you take into account. As an engineering
requirement, yes, it would be trivial. But the makers and marketing types
seem to assume it will increase the cost, and thus reduce sales and profit
more because of that than any increase from attracting those who appreciate
the benefit.

- indeed this was fairly common once at the upper end. And a decent pair
of speakers will outlast many generations of TV sets.

Yes, our old B&O TV (mono, alas) had both fairly decent internal speakers
*and* an output to drive an external speaker. (Also line level output.) But
it cost more than most TVs with a similar screen size. So I'm not surprised
that you didn't seem them in more houses than similarly sized alternative
with shoddy audio. If people really took sound seriously, how many old TVs
would have emitted line whistle?...

Gresham's Law.

Slainte,

Jim

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