Best PVRs?

Hi

I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

Has anyone used/got a PANASONIC DMRHW100 and would they recommend it?

Any other suggestions (need Freeview, twin tuner, 300gb min but HD not
necessary)

Thanks

Vigman

Chris Hogg wrote:

We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.

Ditto. I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT

On Dec 9, 12:30*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.

Ditto. *I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. *I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT

Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??

Thanks

Vigman

In article
,
Jon Dennington wrote:
I wanted to get a replacement twin tuner PVR and was considering a
Humax, but have read that their menus are poor and they freeze a lot
(even the more expensive FOX T2

I have the Humax HD as an addition to my Toppy SD. I prefer the Toppy
(TAPS) menus - but no big deal. Neither freezes. The internet connectivity
on the Humax is useful.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Chris Hogg wrote:

AFAICT our Humax 9200 does most, if not all of those. Certainly the
ones that matter, like 'electronic programme guide', 'series link',
'record split programmes' (although it doesn't run them together as
one programme, it just records the two parts separately), 'schedule
changes updated in standby' and 'accurate recording'. I don't recall
it ever offering to record a related programme though, but it does
tell you about a conflict if recordings clash, time-wise, if you try
to record more than two programmes at the same time.

I notice that my 9200, which I have set to pad recordings (and
therefore cannot use 'accurate recording') sometimes fails
inelegantly if the padding causes overlaps.

It only warns if the actual programmes overlap, it ignores the
padding (2 early, 5 over). It seems to manage OK if they are on
the same channel, sometimes ending one marginally early, but
occasionally starts at the padded time, then stops again at the
true start time, somehow giving priority to another recording.

Occasionally it hangs, usually whilst playing back but once or
twice whilst recording. It has also been known to fail to respect
the stop time, and just keep recording. Not too bad overnight,
but filling the disk whilst we were on holiday was not popular.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

..

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:36:35 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:

On Dec 9, 12:30Â*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.

Ditto. Â*I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. Â*I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT

Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??

That site seems to call the non-HD boxes "Freeview", even though they
work to the Freeview+ spec and have the Freeview+ logo on the front, and
the HD boxes "Freeview+ HD".


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On Dec 9, 4:53*pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:36:35 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington









wrote:
On Dec 9, 12:30*am, Steve Thackery wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
We've had a Humax 9200T in daily use for about two years. Never had
any of the above. Would recommend it to anyone.

Ditto. *I've been using Humax products for years, and although not
perfect, problems in recent years have been scarce.

Importantly, you must compare Humax with the competitors. *I've also
used Sony and Panny Freeview boxes, and both had bugs and annoyances.
None of these products seem very good to me in terms of software
quality.

I believe it's down to two things:

1/ Rushing products to market before they are ready, knowing they can
be upgraded later.

2/ The need to cut the development and manufacturing costs to the bone,
because the market is driven very much on price rather than quality.

Humax, to their credit, put a lot more effort than most of their
competitors into fixing bugs for years after product launch.

--
SteveT

Thanks everyone, I may well go for a Humax then. Interesting point is
that Richer Sounds advertise the lower end Humax as Freeview and the
higher end Freeview+, but looking at the spec, the lower end boxes are
also Freeview+ ??

That site seems to call the non-HD boxes "Freeview", even though they
work to the Freeview+ spec and have the Freeview+ logo on the front, and
the HD boxes "Freeview+ HD".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)


Glad I read the small print... 8))

Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

TIA

Vigman

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:12:37 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:



Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

My guess is that you should first plug the dongle into a computer and
set it up there according to the instructions. Then unplug it and plug
into the Humax.

Quick Install Guide for the EW-7711UTn
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...711UTn-QIG.pdf

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I would recommend the use of the edimax setup wizard that comes with the
device. This is by far the best way to configure these devices, run the
wizard and select "AP Client Mode" and just follow the instructions to
select network and enter the WEP/WPA stuff. This will configure the
Ethernet bridge. i'm using an EW7228Apn which includes a switch so i can
connect to both the humax and my sony tv, works very well. much better than
these power line things that get effected by next doors vacuum cleaner, etc.

paul t

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:12:37 -0800 (PST), Jon Dennington
wrote:



Also I have found out that the following Edimix range of wi-fi
adapters should all work with the latest Humax firmware in the T2 as
it is based on the Ralink RT3070 chipset (rather than the 29 quid
Humax one)


EW-7711UTn - Mini-size with built in antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 159
votes)
EW-7711UAn - Mini-size with Built-in high gain 3dBi antenna (Amazon
Rating 4/5 - 218 votes)
EW-7711USn - Normal size with detachable high gain 3dBi detachable
external antenna (Amazon Rating 4/5 - 12 votes)

When you plug a wi-fi dongle into the FOX T2, how do you specify and
type the SSID and WEP codes, please, to join your home network?

My guess is that you should first plug the dongle into a computer and
set it up there according to the instructions. Then unplug it and plug
into the Humax.

Quick Install Guide for the EW-7711UTn
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...711UTn-QIG.pdf

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Chris Hogg wrote:

AFAICT our Humax 9200 does most, if not all of those. Certainly the
ones that matter, like 'electronic programme guide', 'series link',
'record split programmes' (although it doesn't run them together as
one programme, it just records the two parts separately), 'schedule
changes updated in standby' and 'accurate recording'. I don't recall
it ever offering to record a related programme though, but it does
tell you about a conflict if recordings clash, time-wise, if you try
to record more than two programmes at the same time.

I notice that my 9200, which I have set to pad recordings (and
therefore cannot use 'accurate recording') sometimes fails
inelegantly if the padding causes overlaps.

It only warns if the actual programmes overlap, it ignores the
padding (2 early, 5 over). It seems to manage OK if they are on
the same channel, sometimes ending one marginally early, but
occasionally starts at the padded time, then stops again at the
true start time, somehow giving priority to another recording.

Occasionally it hangs, usually whilst playing back but once or
twice whilst recording. It has also been known to fail to respect
the stop time, and just keep recording. Not too bad overnight,
but filling the disk whilst we were on holiday was not popular.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.