Motionflow

Wondering what people think of this?

My brother's just bought a 40" Sony TV with Motionflow, cost about £1000
he says. At first, it looked stunning. We were watching Four Lions (SD
DTV) and it looked completely different to my Panasonic LCD. Not sure
about 'better' though.

Rob

Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

Isn't it just a fancy name for n*50Hz processing and/or de-interlacing
and/or upscaling?

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:59:04 +0000, Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

My brother's just bought a 40" Sony TV with Motionflow, cost about £1000
he says. At first, it looked stunning. We were watching Four Lions (SD
DTV) and it looked completely different to my Panasonic LCD. Not sure
about 'better' though.

Rob

Motionflow and other similar methods depends on the preinterpolation
images being linearly separated. That not always the case especially
with Internet TV.

Steve

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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:09:36 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

Isn't it just a fancy name for n*50Hz processing and/or de-interlacing
and/or upscaling?

It's the Sony version of motion interpolation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation

Motion interpolation is a form of video processing in which
intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones,
in an attempt to make animation more fluid.

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On 30/11/2011 5:59 PM, Rob wrote:
Wondering what people think of this?

My brother's just bought a 40" Sony TV with Motionflow, cost about £1000
he says. At first, it looked stunning. We were watching Four Lions (SD
DTV) and it looked completely different to my Panasonic LCD. Not sure
about 'better' though.

Rob



works nicely on tv shows - but i always turn it off for films - i want
films to look 24fps - not like a soap opera.

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Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

All the vendors have their own motion interpolation algorithms, and
usually brand them for marketing purposes.

I'm familiar with expensive Pannys and Sonys, and I think the Sony is
the better of the two in terms of motion smoothing. In fact, I think
it's wonderful, albeit not perfect. Occasionally, for some reason, you
still get motion judder.

However, the efficacy of motion smoothing is, ultimately, subjective.
Some people complain about blurring or artefacts on moving objects, and
this varies depending upon which make of TV you choose. I, for one,
can't see such artefacts, at least not on my Sony.

On the other hand, I find the standard 25Hz frame rate (50Hz refresh
rate) very unpleasant on a large screen, and I find the motion judder
renders the picture almost unwatchable.

Mind you, I feel the same way about motion judder at the cinema, except
it's even worse as there is no interlacing (which reduces the
"obviousness" of lateral panning or motion, at least to some extent).

In summary, I think motion interpolation is essential on large screen
TVs, and I think Sony's Motionflow is the best I've seen. It also gets
very good reviews.

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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:09:36 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

Isn't it just a fancy name for n*50Hz processing and/or de-interlacing
and/or upscaling?

It's the Sony version of motion interpolation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation

Motion interpolation is a form of video processing in which
intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones,
in an attempt to make animation more fluid.

Does it stop wagon wheels from going backwards in Westerns?

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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:09:36 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

Isn't it just a fancy name for n*50Hz processing and/or de-interlacing
and/or upscaling?

It's the Sony version of motion interpolation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation

Motion interpolation is a form of video processing in which
intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones,
in an attempt to make animation more fluid.

Does it stop wagon wheels from going backwards in Westerns?

Not a hope!

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What does it do that is different then?
Brian

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Wondering what people think of this?

My brother's just bought a 40" Sony TV with Motionflow, cost about £1000
he says. At first, it looked stunning. We were watching Four Lions (SD
DTV) and it looked completely different to my Panasonic LCD. Not sure
about 'better' though.

Rob

Yes, well disney used to call it tweening.
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:09:36 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Rob wrote:

Wondering what people think of this?

Isn't it just a fancy name for n*50Hz processing and/or de-interlacing
and/or upscaling?

It's the Sony version of motion interpolation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation

Motion interpolation is a form of video processing in which
intermediate animation frames are generated between existing ones,
in an attempt to make animation more fluid.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)