Ross SD kit for F1 next year / Panasonic Freesat HD TV

Bill Wright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to
do with them from what I've read).

Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Thought they could get two LNBs down one cable, then separate at the
bottom for an A/B switch ... or am I utterly wrong?

Martin wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
they'll be FTA HD?

Do you really think Sky will offer it free?

Err no. and I don't really expect to find it as FTA HD, I thought the
O/P was hoping for that, but now I see that he (like me) is probably
just after an SD feed for the "sky only" races ...

Didn't I read somewhere that analogue Eurosport from 19.2E (which
AFAIAA is the only one with English commentary) is switching off in
April next year? Does that alter anyone's plans?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:44 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Not yet/not quite.

now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?
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On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

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I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.


I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

SNIP

Mark

I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.

I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.

I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.

I have a steerable dish and a receiver to drive it and an LG Freesat HD TV.

The TV has two satellite modes - Freesat (only fixed Freesat channels
available) and generic where hundreds of channels are visible on 28E,
including any HD ones (but only Luxe HD for a while), so assuming the Panny
is similar, you could use this for 28E and sat receiver for 19E to watch
RTL or whatever.

If you can use a bigger or ovate dish then you could have two LNB's on the
same dish, but alignment can be tricky.


I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.

Matt

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:40:57 -0800 (PST), larkim
wrote:

I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

I've been thinking of exactly the same kind of thing. Is the B&Q offer
"in shop" only or is there a web link?

Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

not possible (ignoring stackers, which is probably the best thing to
do with them from what I've read).

Stackers won't help feed 2 dishes into one telly.

Thought they could get two LNBs down one cable, then separate at the
bottom for an A/B switch ... or am I utterly wrong?

Well yes that's right, but I thought the problem was getting the two
sets of signals into the TV, having got them into the living room... or
am I utterly wrong?

Bill

On 28/11/2011 14:33, Pete Shew wrote:
On 28/11/2011 11:06, Brian Mc wrote:
Andy wrote:
: I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
: BBC rations of F1 next year

: Is it known on what bird the non-BBC races will be yet, and whether
: they'll be FTA HD?

RTL on

SD Only! All sources of HD F1 are encrypted and require a smartcard.
A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Pete

I suggest reading the digitalspy forums. Lots of discussion on this
subject.

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On 28/11/2011 14:40, larkim wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark
wrote:
wrote in message

...
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

I was wondering what the best way would be to switch between the two
dishes when I get the second one installed:-
- just use the STB provided by the B&Q kit
- somehow merge the downleads from both dishes into one cable to feed
into the back of the TV
- plug / unplug the right cable when I need to switch

I've heard about "diseqc" but my limited understanding seems to be
that the Panasonic TV doesn't support it.

Cheers for any help!

Matt

The simplest solution would be to have a dual (or quad) LNB. Both devices
could then receive at once (e.g. watch one ; record the other). The TV will
manually or automatically switch to the HDMI input from the box when it on.

If you only have one feed (e.g. in a flat) then a priority switch will
divert the signal from the TV to the box when it is on, but not when it
isn't ~£10. Some boxes have an IF out which loops the IF back out when the
box is not in use - essentially the same effect, but less insertion loss.

A diseqc switch could be used, but would normally be for more complex
installations (e.g. if you had another dish pointing at 13E for late night
films etc.)

Mark

I think you've missed the point - I need to point either two dishes
(and two LNBs) at two different satellites, or point one dish with two
LNBs at two different satellites.

I've gone for the easy route of 2 dishes, therefore 2 LNBs, and just
wanted to find out the simplest way to flick between the two dishes as
needed.

I'm fortunate in that I've got a Freesat HD TV, with a dish which was
installed for Sky by previous occupants, but I actually watch most TV
through my Freeview HD 3view box, so I don't often use the Freesat HD
signal.

I could have simply re-pointed the existing dish at 19.2E instead, but
I like to have the best of all worlds, so didn't want to lose my
Freesat HD signal.


I bought a simple A/B switch from maplins which would do what you want
so long as your Panasonic will let you add the 12187 V 27500 transponder
for RTL and is otherwise happy with non Freesat channels such as CNC
World (maybe CNN as well.)







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On Nov 28, 7:40*pm, Java Jive wrote:
Didn't I read somewhere that analogue Eurosport from 19.2E (which
AFAIAA is the only one with English commentary) is switching off in
April next year? *Does that alter anyone's plans?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:44 +0000, Andy Burns

wrote:
Pete Shew wrote:

A bit off topic. I use a Sky Zone 2 dish in North Lincolnshire with
MythTV for FreeSat and I would like to add a 19.2 LNB with, probably,
diseqc for the F1 coverage.

Has any one here done this to a zone 2 dish with any success?

Not yet/not quite.

now looking to add the 2nd LNB and disqec
switch for 19.2 ... anything else worth a 3rd LNB while I'm at it?

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Happy to have German "pictures" and R5L sound from the stereo. Not
planning on using analogue.

Matt

On Nov 28, 7:46*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

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On Nov 28, 1:36 pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:

"larkim" wrote in message

....
I've got a Panasonic Freesat HD TV, working fine. To supplement my
BBC rations of F1 next year I've taken advantage of the B&Q £25 deal
on the Ross dish / STB etc.

It's £28.68p. Lidl have a box at £30 with HDMI out.

Actually, no it was £24.99 - I have actually bought and paid for it.

Matt