Digitising vinyls leads to new trick

The thread 'Digitising vinyls (OT etc etc)' has caused me to discover
that I can mark all the messages in a group as 'read' without selecting
them first. It's slightly quicker. So the discussion wasn't a total
waste of time after all.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
The thread 'Digitising vinyls (OT etc etc)' has caused me to discover
that I can mark all the messages in a group as 'read' without selecting
them first. It's slightly quicker. So the discussion wasn't a total
waste of time after all.

Bill

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On 12/11/2011 18:55, Bill Wright wrote:
The thread 'Digitising vinyls (OT etc etc)' has caused me to discover
that I can mark all the messages in a group as 'read' without selecting
them first. It's slightly quicker. So the discussion wasn't a total
waste of time after all.

Bill

Or highlight the thread and press 'k'

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
The thread 'Digitising vinyls (OT etc etc)' has caused me to discover that
I can mark all the messages in a group as 'read' without selecting them
first. It's slightly quicker. So the discussion wasn't a total waste of
time after all.

Just in case you do have an old record lying around...

FWIW, my ears aren't good enough for all this phaffing around. Plugging the
HiFi into the audio-in on my daughter's laptop, using "Audacity" (freeware)
and converting to MP3 works fine for me.

Of course there are multi-thousand pound laser record decks with the
associated multi-method cleaning gear to go with them - but when you're
recording "Summer Holiday", from a recording made in the early 60s (50s
even?), who has the patience, time or money ;-).

Paul DS.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:01:52 -0000, "Paul D Smith"
wrote:

FWIW, my ears aren't good enough for all this phaffing around.

Well, to an extent, that's a matter of personal preference.

As you're going to be stuck with the result for ever, once you've
binned the originals, I think it's worth spending some time at least
to make the recording process as good as possible. You can then
choose to remove scratches with software, which is a very time
consuming process, or not, but at least you know that you've got the
best possible starting point if you want to go on and do it properly.

I wouldn't be buying a vinyl washer now, because I could no longer
afford it, but I already had it. This rather enforces doing the job
twice because of the reasons giving on my website. However, I'm very
glad that I did, because the before and after comparison on many of
the recordings is truly remarkable.

I'm listening through the results now, and finding the odd thing, but
mostly I seem to have done a pretty good job. This evening, I've
listened through two live Dubliners albums that AFAIAA are not
available on CD, and I couldn't afford to replace them if they were,
and despite them dating from the late 60s/ early 70s, they're almost
like new, and could be made to sound even better with comparatively
little software editing.

Plugging the
HiFi into the audio-in on my daughter's laptop, using "Audacity" (freeware)
and converting to MP3 works fine for me.

If you can do that without an unacceptable hum, then that's fine. I
too used a laptop - very convenient, seemingly relatively
electrically quiet compared with a desktop, and able to back up each
day's work to the NAS Server by wireless.

Of course there are multi-thousand pound laser record decks with the
associated multi-method cleaning gear to go with them - but when you're
recording "Summer Holiday", from a recording made in the early 60s (50s
even?), who has the patience, time or money ;-).

"We're all going on a Summer Holiday,
No more working for a week or two"

I remember that well, as an elder brother was something of a Cliff fan
in the days before he was recruited to the God squad. I remember some
good tracks - Evergreen, Do You Wanna Dance, Dancing Shoes, Out In
The Country.

I not only have my own collection here but the remnants of my
mother's. The oldest family records are mostly in a shocking state -
some early Mary O'Hara EPs, Shelley Berman, Clancy Brothers & Tommy
Makem, some piping records, etc, are all terrible. Although I did
wash them, I recorded them on the Project, because their poor
condition meant that it just wasn't worth struggling with the Dual.

As for her 78s, that was rather sad. There were some classical, and
light band music, but mostly they were Gaelic songs rescued from her
parents' home. Us kids accidentally broke many of them when we were
young. The final straw was me dropping a favourite, of mine as well
as hers, called Loch Liobhan or something like that in the title. I
was devastated and she was raving furious. She gathered all the 78s
up and hid them somewhere, and never allowed any of us near them
again, even when we were older and more 'reliable'. After she died,
we were clearing out the house in Cambridge, and I found a case of
them behind her bed. Unfortunately, that wall had a leaking gutter
which the landlord (then Cambridge City Council, it was a listed
building) had never fixed, perhaps because she had never told them
about it, she was in a poor physical and mental state for years before
her death. The 78s were covered in fungus. I had to bin the lot.

If my collection had been like the family recordings, I certainly
wouldn't have bothered with them much. However, despite one careful,
but occasionally rather clumsy, owner and one or two careless
girlfriends and flatmates, mostly they've survived remarkably well,
and having seen, or rather heard, what the washer can do, there's one
or two old records which I'd already disposed of that I now wish I'd
kept - Edit Piaf, The Best Of Ball, Barber, and Bilk, the entire
ballet of Romeo And Juliet, etc.

Still, I'm heartily glad that it's mostly over, and that I can now
enjoy them by just clicking on a file.
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On Nov 14, 9:01*am, "Paul D Smith" wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message

...

The thread 'Digitising vinyls (OT etc etc)' has caused me to discover that
I can mark all the messages in a group as 'read' without selecting them
first. It's slightly quicker. So the discussion wasn't a total waste of
time after all.

Just in case you do have an old record lying around...

FWIW, my ears aren't good enough for all this phaffing around. *Plugging the
HiFi into the audio-in on my daughter's laptop, using "Audacity" (freeware)
and converting to MP3 works fine for me.

Of course there are multi-thousand pound laser record decks with the
associated multi-method cleaning gear to go with them - but when you're
recording "Summer Holiday", from a recording made in the early 60s (50s
even?), who has the patience, time or money ;-).

Given that "Summer Holiday" is available on various CDs and various
free streaming services, I can't imagine why you'd waste your time
copying it from vinyl.

Cheers,
David.

On Nov 14, 11:22*pm, Java Jive wrote:

If my collection had been like the family recordings, I certainly
wouldn't have bothered with them much. *However, despite one careful,
but occasionally rather clumsy, owner and one or two careless
girlfriends and flatmates, mostly they've survived remarkably well,
and having seen, or rather heard, what the washer can do, there's one
or two old records which I'd already disposed of that I now wish I'd
kept *- *Edit Piaf, The Best Of Ball, Barber, and Bilk, the entire
ballet of Romeo And Juliet, etc.

Ten years ago most charity shops would have sold you any of those for
50p or less.

The tracks are on this compilation (along with many others)...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Barber-.../dp/B003U3NBYG

....or start somewhere like this...

http://grooveshark.com/#/search?q=kenny+ball

Cheers,
David.

On Tuesday, November 15th, 2011 at 03:26:56 -0800h, David Robinson proclaimed:

Given that "Summer Holiday" is available on various CDs and various free
streaming services, I can't imagine why you'd waste your time copying it
from vinyl.

Maybe, because some people think the vinyl version sounds better to them.

In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
On Tuesday, November 15th, 2011 at 03:26:56 -0800h, David Robinson proclaimed:

Given that "Summer Holiday" is available on various CDs and various
free streaming services, I can't imagine why you'd waste your time
copying it from vinyl.

Maybe, because some people think the vinyl version sounds better to them.



My problem is I can't find a way of fitting my Dust Bug to my CD player.
The noise it makes while tracking the groove is essential to that LP
experience.

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