Currys DTT boxes

I just bought three basic DTT boxes from Currys, £20 each. Quite
impressed. Quick and easy install. I connected one to a feed which had
both Emley and Crosspool on it and at the end it asked which region I
wanted it to store, Yorkshire or South Yorkshire.
A quick sensitivity test suggests that it will work from a mux at 30dBuV.

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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I just bought three basic DTT boxes from Currys, £20 each. Quite
impressed. Quick and easy install. I connected one to a feed
which had both Emley and Crosspool on it and at the end it asked
which region I wanted it to store, Yorkshire or South Yorkshire.
A quick sensitivity test suggests that it will work from a mux
at 30dBuV.

Bill


Here's one for you Bill.

I was in Comet the other day and they have POS material (which
they say is provided by DigitalUk) that says that people may
loose BBC1 and BBC2 after they retune at DSO1. This is due to a
change in the way that the BBC transmits the signal. Viewers
should not worry however as it will be resolved at DSO2.

Eh?



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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:16:18 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I just bought three basic DTT boxes from Currys, £20 each. Quite
impressed. Quick and easy install. I connected one to a feed
which had both Emley and Crosspool on it and at the end it asked
which region I wanted it to store, Yorkshire or South Yorkshire.
A quick sensitivity test suggests that it will work from a mux
at 30dBuV.

Bill


Here's one for you Bill.

I was in Comet the other day and they have POS material (which
they say is provided by DigitalUk) that says that people may
loose BBC1 and BBC2 after they retune at DSO1. This is due to a
change in the way that the BBC transmits the signal. Viewers
should not worry however as it will be resolved at DSO2.

Eh?

Is this related to the change between 16QAM and 64QAM (I hope I've got
those numbers correct)?

Some boxes can handle 16QAM *or* 64QAM transmissions but not both
simultaneously (some muxes on 16QAM and some on 64QAM).

Some muxes will be on 64QAM after DS01 with the rest on 16QAM until
DS02.

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Woody wrote:

Here's one for you Bill.

I was in Comet the other day and they have POS material (which
they say is provided by DigitalUk) that says that people may
loose BBC1 and BBC2 after they retune at DSO1. This is due to a
change in the way that the BBC transmits the signal. Viewers
should not worry however as it will be resolved at DSO2.

The whole thing is a morass of misinformation. However in Currys today I
overheard a salesman giving a customer some perfectly accurate
information about switchover.

Bill

Oh my gawd, how can this country make something so simple into something so
complicated?

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:16:18 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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I just bought three basic DTT boxes from Currys, £20 each. Quite
impressed. Quick and easy install. I connected one to a feed
which had both Emley and Crosspool on it and at the end it asked
which region I wanted it to store, Yorkshire or South Yorkshire.
A quick sensitivity test suggests that it will work from a mux
at 30dBuV.

Bill


Here's one for you Bill.

I was in Comet the other day and they have POS material (which
they say is provided by DigitalUk) that says that people may
loose BBC1 and BBC2 after they retune at DSO1. This is due to a
change in the way that the BBC transmits the signal. Viewers
should not worry however as it will be resolved at DSO2.

Eh?

Is this related to the change between 16QAM and 64QAM (I hope I've got
those numbers correct)?

Some boxes can handle 16QAM *or* 64QAM transmissions but not both
simultaneously (some muxes on 16QAM and some on 64QAM).

Some muxes will be on 64QAM after DS01 with the rest on 16QAM until
DS02.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

In article , Bill Wright wrote:
The whole thing is a morass of misinformation. However in Currys today I
overheard a salesman giving a customer some perfectly accurate
information about switchover.

Even if you give the job to an infinite number of monkeys they're bound to
get it right occasionally.

Rod.
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
The whole thing is a morass of misinformation. However in Currys today I
overheard a salesman giving a customer some perfectly accurate
information about switchover.

Even if you give the job to an infinite number of monkeys they're bound to
get it right occasionally.

Rod.
It was Saturday. His eyes both pointed the same way. He must have been a
sixth former.

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
The whole thing is a morass of misinformation. However in Currys today I
overheard a salesman giving a customer some perfectly accurate
information about switchover.

Even if you give the job to an infinite number of monkeys they're bound
to get it right occasionally.

Rod.
It was Saturday. His eyes both pointed the same way. He must have been a
sixth former.

Bill

Do you know if these £20 boxes will display to a 4:3 set correctly as a sky
box is capable of? I just bought a cheap box for the kitchen TV and its 4:3
letter box etc, 16:9 fills the screen with a stretch, not ideal.

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:16:18 +0100, "Woody"
wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I just bought three basic DTT boxes from Currys, £20 each.
Quite
impressed. Quick and easy install. I connected one to a feed
which had both Emley and Crosspool on it and at the end it
asked
which region I wanted it to store, Yorkshire or South
Yorkshire.
A quick sensitivity test suggests that it will work from a
mux
at 30dBuV.

Bill


Here's one for you Bill.

I was in Comet the other day and they have POS material (which
they say is provided by DigitalUk) that says that people may
loose BBC1 and BBC2 after they retune at DSO1. This is due to a
change in the way that the BBC transmits the signal. Viewers
should not worry however as it will be resolved at DSO2.

Eh?

Is this related to the change between 16QAM and 64QAM (I hope
I've got
those numbers correct)?

Some boxes can handle 16QAM *or* 64QAM transmissions but not
both
simultaneously (some muxes on 16QAM and some on 64QAM).

Some muxes will be on 64QAM after DS01 with the rest on 16QAM
until
DS02.

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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)



If that is the case then how have people been watching DTTV until
now? Are you saying that these are new boxes that will loose
BBC1/2?

Surely the change has been known long enough that any DTTV box
bought in the last few years should be able to do 16QAM and 64QAM
at the same time else it would be unfit for purpose under SOGA?

The best bit is that there is nothing about this on the Digital
UK web site!



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Woody wrote:

If that is the case then how have people been watching DTTV until
now? Are you saying that these are new boxes that will loose
BBC1/2?

Surely the change has been known long enough that any DTTV box
bought in the last few years should be able to do 16QAM and 64QAM
at the same time else it would be unfit for purpose under SOGA?

The problem is not a 16/64QAM thing, all pre DSO areas have had this mixed
currency since Oct 2002.

It's the 2k or 8k FFT issue. Some receivers still in use, (notably OnDigital
boxes) cannot work at 8k. These will die at DSO, when the muxes change from 2
to 8k working.

The best bit is that there is nothing about this on the Digital
UK web site!

Except there is ! :-)

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/21057/for_website_2K_only_models_ex_volumes_revised-Mar11.pdf


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