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Old July 2nd 11, 01:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Donwill
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the players.
Just my opinion. What do others think?
Don
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Old July 2nd 11, 02:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

In article ,
Donwill wrote:
I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the
players. Just my opinion. What do others think? Don


Interesting. Was on the phone to a pal who has a 3D set, and he thought it
wonderful. But I'm more likely to believe you...

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Old July 2nd 11, 04:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Gary
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

On 02/07/2011 13:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the
players. Just my opinion. What do others think? Don

Interesting. Was on the phone to a pal who has a 3D set, and he thought it
wonderful. But I'm more likely to believe you...

Watching live at mo and it look good to me.

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Old July 2nd 11, 04:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Donwill wrote:
I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the
players. Just my opinion. What do others think? Don


Interesting. Was on the phone to a pal who has an 3D set, and he thought it
wonderful. But I'm more likely to believe you...


Why not pop round to your pal's, and come to your judgement that way ?


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Old July 2nd 11, 04:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Donwill
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

On 02/07/2011 15:16, Gary wrote:
On 02/07/2011 13:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the
players. Just my opinion. What do others think? Don

Interesting. Was on the phone to a pal who has a 3D set, and he
thought it
wonderful. But I'm more likely to believe you...

Watching live at mo and it look good to me.

do you notice any ghosting to the sides of the line judges on the dark
green background? I suppose it could be my tv or humax tuner , I also
find it's tiring to watch, the foreground is VG but the backgound not so
good.
Don
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Old July 2nd 11, 05:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Legon
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

Donwill wrote:
On 02/07/2011 15:16, Gary wrote:
On 02/07/2011 13:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
I thought it was pretty hopeless, a lot of ghosting on white trousered
line judges against dark green background, I preferred to watch it in
plain HD. The 3D tended to distract the eye from the action of the
players. Just my opinion. What do others think? Don
Interesting. Was on the phone to a pal who has a 3D set, and he
thought it
wonderful. But I'm more likely to believe you...

Watching live at mo and it look good to me.

do you notice any ghosting to the sides of the line judges on the dark
green background? I suppose it could be my tv or humax tuner , I also
find it's tiring to watch, the foreground is VG but the backgound not so
good.


The ghosting is probably cross-talk between the left and right eye
images caused by imperfect shuttering of the 3D glasses - i.e. the left
eye sees some of the image intended for the right eye and vice versa.
Different models of 3D TV perform differently in their ability to
eliminate this effect.
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Old July 2nd 11, 08:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
klaus
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

John Legon schrieb:

The ghosting is probably cross-talk between the left and right eye
images caused by imperfect shuttering of the 3D glasses - i.e. the left
eye sees some of the image intended for the right eye and vice versa.
Different models of 3D TV perform differently in their ability to
eliminate this effect.


Correct - LCD-3D-TVs with shutter glasses are too slow for the 120 Hz
frame switching, but on my DLP projector (Acer H5360) screen there is no
glimpse of ghosting...
Sorrily the resolution on the BBC 3D channel is really bad against the
HD (2D) channel, in spite of the temporal Full-HD transponder adjustment...
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Old July 3rd 11, 04:48 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Legon
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

Klaus wrote:
John Legon schrieb:

The ghosting is probably cross-talk between the left and right eye
images caused by imperfect shuttering of the 3D glasses - i.e. the left
eye sees some of the image intended for the right eye and vice versa.
Different models of 3D TV perform differently in their ability to
eliminate this effect.


Correct - LCD-3D-TVs with shutter glasses are too slow for the 120 Hz
frame switching, but on my DLP projector (Acer H5360) screen there is no
glimpse of ghosting...


That's very interesting. Thanks.

Sorrily the resolution on the BBC 3D channel is really bad against the
HD (2D) channel, in spite of the temporal Full-HD transponder adjustment...


Surprisingly, the average bit rate seemed to be only around 9 Mb/s.
Presumably this is because much video information is being duplicated
between the two halves of the screen.
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Old July 3rd 11, 04:52 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

John Legon wrote:

Surprisingly, the average bit rate seemed to be only around 9 Mb/s.
Presumably this is because much video information is being duplicated
between the two halves of the screen.


Would that help if each line is transmitted sequentially?

Bill
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Old July 3rd 11, 10:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Default Wimbledon BBC HD 3D this mornings replay of theSemi F.

John Legon wrote:

Surprisingly, the average bit rate seemed to be only around 9 Mb/s.
Presumably this is because much video information is being duplicated
between the two halves of the screen.


But isn't that because 3D effectively halves the resolution of each
"half" of the picture? Either temporally or spatially, I'm not sure.

SteveT


 




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