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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:42:55 +0100, John Hall
wrote:


I read somewhere that when Peter Brough transferred to TV he had to be
reminded not to move his mouth when voicing Archie Andrews.



I wonder if there are any burqa wearing female ventriloquists in Muslim
countries?

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:25:12 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , John Hall
writes
In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

The thing is, Peter Brough was had absolutely NO talent as a
ventriloquist. He just couldn't keep his lips still. When they tried to
transfer the radio show to television, the results were simply
laughable.

Q:Why did Peter Brough need a dummy?
A: Because the dummy was the brains in the partnership.


I've had a quick look on YouTube for an example, but I can't find any
obvious clips of the TV shows. [I wonder why!]

LOL


Of course, the radio shows were where Julie Andrews got a start in her
show business career.

Archy's sister? Show business is full of nepotism. :-)


As she was only around 16 at the time, I wonder if some of her early
performances were a bit wooden?

In message , Rick writes

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:25:12 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , John Hall
writes
In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

The thing is, Peter Brough was had absolutely NO talent as a
ventriloquist. He just couldn't keep his lips still. When they tried to
transfer the radio show to television, the results were simply
laughable.

Q:Why did Peter Brough need a dummy?
A: Because the dummy was the brains in the partnership.


I've had a quick look on YouTube for an example, but I can't find any
obvious clips of the TV shows. [I wonder why!]

LOL


Of course, the radio shows were where Julie Andrews got a start in her
show business career.

Archy's sister? Show business is full of nepotism. :-)


As she was only around 16 at the time, I wonder if some of her early
performances were a bit wooden?

She was actually supposed to be Archie's girlfriend (same name, but
hopefully, not a close relation!).
--
Ian

Op woensdag, 22 juni, 2011 naar 09:32:52u +0200, Martin van Nederlands schreef:

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough and
dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else outside UK.


QUOTE

The Edgar Bergen-Charlie McCarthy Show was a permanent fixture
on American network radio from 1937 until 1957.


UNQUOTE

http://www.radiohof.ORG/comedy/edgarbergen.html

http://www.freeotrshows.COM/otr/e/Edgar_Bergen_and_Charlie_McCarthy.html

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
I've had a quick look on YouTube for an example, but I can't find any
obvious clips of the TV shows. [I wonder why!]

They were all live?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Ian Jackson writes:
The thing is, Peter Brough was had absolutely NO talent as a
ventriloquist. He just couldn't keep his lips still. When they tried to
transfer the radio show to television, the results were simply
laughable.

I've had a quick look on YouTube for an example, but I can't find
any obvious clips of the TV shows. [I wonder why!]

Of course, the radio shows were where Julie Andrews got a start
in her show business career.

Tony Hancock as well, IIRC.
--
John Hall

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:17:23 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:12 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:42:55 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

It seems odd becausebecause we knew that Peter Brough was using the
dummy during radio performances. We don't think there is anything
particularly strange about an actor on radio performing more than one
character using a different voice for each.

Yeah but they don't pretend to be not moving their mouths :-)


The Goon Show would have been much less entertaining if Spike Milligan,
Harry Secombe, Peter Sellers and Michael Bentine had used only one
voice each.

Imagine if they had manipulated a dummy of each character :-)

I think that might be the basis for a Goons tribute TV show. :-)


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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

In message , Martin
writes
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:12 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:42:55 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

It seems odd becausebecause we knew that Peter Brough was using the
dummy during radio performances. We don't think there is anything
particularly strange about an actor on radio performing more than one
character using a different voice for each.

Yeah but they don't pretend to be not moving their mouths :-)


The Goon Show would have been much less entertaining if Spike Milligan,
Harry Secombe, Peter Sellers and Michael Bentine had used only one
voice each.

Imagine if they had manipulated a dummy of each character :-)


I read somewhere that when Peter Brough transferred to TV he had to be
reminded not to move his mouth when voicing Archie Andrews.

AFAIR he couldn't not move his mouth.

There is some footage of Brough and Archie on TV, I've seen it.
--
Ian

Peter Duncanson writes:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:17:23 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:12 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:42:55 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

It seems odd becausebecause we knew that Peter Brough was using the
dummy during radio performances. We don't think there is anything
particularly strange about an actor on radio performing more than one
character using a different voice for each.

Yeah but they don't pretend to be not moving their mouths :-)


The Goon Show would have been much less entertaining if Spike Milligan,
Harry Secombe, Peter Sellers and Michael Bentine had used only one
voice each.

Imagine if they had manipulated a dummy of each character :-)

I think that might be the basis for a Goons tribute TV show. :-)

Somebody already had that idea in the 60s. Google for telegoons.

--
Brian Raven

In message , Ian
writes
In message , Martin
writes
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:12 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:42:55 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In article ,
Martin writes:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:43:07 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

This is fascinating on so many levels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQyO...eature=related

In no particular order, Could the Yanks understand South York Shire?
An aerial?
A valve? FFS!

They can't even understand the concept of ventriloquist Peter Brough
and dummy Archie Andrews on a radio show., nor can anybody else
outside UK.

Some of us from within the UK think that it was pretty odd too.

It seems odd becausebecause we knew that Peter Brough was using the
dummy during radio performances. We don't think there is anything
particularly strange about an actor on radio performing more than one
character using a different voice for each.

Yeah but they don't pretend to be not moving their mouths :-)


The Goon Show would have been much less entertaining if Spike Milligan,
Harry Secombe, Peter Sellers and Michael Bentine had used only one
voice each.

Imagine if they had manipulated a dummy of each character :-)


I read somewhere that when Peter Brough transferred to TV he had to be
reminded not to move his mouth when voicing Archie Andrews.

AFAIR he couldn't not move his mouth.

There is some footage of Brough and Archie on TV, I've seen it.

I think it was on a BBC 4 or Channel 4 'History of Classic UK Radio and
TV Comedy' type of programme. But the video doesn't seem to have made it
to YouTube (plenty of audio, though).
--
Ian