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On 20/06/2011 12:59, alexander.keys1 wrote:
Funny how we've not heard about this on the "accurate and impartial"
BBC, seems if one of Uncle Sam's reactors nearly melts down it's not a
problem,

Melts down? I've just done a bit of googling. It looks as though they
had a fire in an electrical switchboard, and had to shut down some pumps
for an hour. 'Time to boil' for the pond affected was estimated at 88.3
hours. So they had an 87.3 hour safety margin.

And the no-fly zone was to stop the news helicopters from getting in the
way.

This was BTW largely garnered from US publicly available media.

Andy

On Monday, June 20th, 2011 at 17:34:07h +0100, AC asked:

Or do you expect all this for free?

I pay for the service every time I buy a product from a manufacturer
who sponsors or buys commercial air time on the station providing
the news program.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:06:10 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote:

On 20/06/2011 12:59, alexander.keys1 wrote:
Funny how we've not heard about this on the "accurate and impartial"
BBC, seems if one of Uncle Sam's reactors nearly melts down it's not a
problem,

Melts down? I've just done a bit of googling. It looks as though they
had a fire in an electrical switchboard, and had to shut down some pumps
for an hour. 'Time to boil' for the pond affected was estimated at 88.3
hours. So they had an 87.3 hour safety margin.

And the no-fly zone was to stop the news helicopters from getting in the
way.

This was BTW largely garnered from US publicly available media.


News releases from the utility that operates the power station, Omaha
Public Power District, in reverse date order:
http://www.oppd.com/AboutUs/NewsEven...#action_061611

Extracts in date order:

Joint Information Center Activated, News Release No. 1
June 7, 2011

An Alert has been declared at Omaha Public Power District’s Fort
Calhoun Nuclear Station. An Alert is the second-lowest of four
classifications established by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission for
nuclear power plants.

Due to the declaration, the OPPD has activated the Joint Information
Center in order to provide information to the media. The center is
located on the atrium level of Energy Plaza, 444 South l6th Street
Mall, in downtown Omaha. It will serve the news media as the only
source for official, up-to-date, accurate information about the
plant emergency and off-site implications, if any.

Joint Information Center Activated, News Release No. 3
June 7, 2011

At approximately 1:15 p.m. on Tuesday, OPPD officials declared they
had taken all appropriate measures to safely return to the
previously Level One Alert classification at Fort Calhoun Nuclear
Power Station to a Notification of Unusual Event (NOUE), which is
the lowest of four classifications established by the Nuclear
Regulatory Commission (NRC).

Earlier today, OPPD officials declared a Level Two Alert
classification at the plant due to smoke in an electrical switchgear
room in the plant. There was no indication of a fire and no releases
of radioactivity occurred. After a thorough safety review, the plant
was cleared to return its level one emergency that was declared
Monday due to flood conditions.

The plant has been shut down since April 9 for a refueling and
maintenance outage. It remains shut down due to flooding of the
Missouri River. The flooding appears to not have been a contributor
to the electrical issue.

The public and the media are invited to a debriefing press
conference at 2:00 p.m., Energy Plaza Auditorium, 444 South 16th
Street Mall, in downtown Omaha.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

In article , Andy Champ
writes
On 20/06/2011 12:59, alexander.keys1 wrote:
Funny how we've not heard about this on the "accurate and impartial"
BBC, seems if one of Uncle Sam's reactors nearly melts down it's not a
problem,

Melts down? I've just done a bit of googling.

Snip apparently "impartial" comments of allegedly blocked media...

This was BTW largely garnered from US publicly available media.

What part of "total media blackout" are you having problems with?

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!
;-)
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
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On 20/06/2011 12:59, alexander.keys1 wrote:
Funny how we've not heard about this on the "accurate and impartial"
BBC, seems if one of Uncle Sam's reactors nearly melts down it's not a
problem,

Melts down? I've just done a bit of googling. It looks as though they
had a fire in an electrical switchboard, and had to shut down some pumps
for an hour. 'Time to boil' for the pond affected was estimated at 88.3
hours. So they had an 87.3 hour safety margin.

And the no-fly zone was to stop the news helicopters from getting in the
way.

This was BTW largely garnered from US publicly available media.


The Pakistan rag says
"But, with an already documented 35% increase in the infant mortality rate
for American mothers living in the western coastal regions of the US caused
by radiation blowing onto them from Japan being ignored by these people
there doesn’t seem to be much hope for them. (The EU Times)"

Having spent some time on the West Coast of the US immediately after the
Japan problems I don't recall anything about increased infant mortality, let
alone a 35% increase.
Hmmm...average in 2004 reported as 6.1 per 1,000.
So 35% increase goes up to 8.2 per 1,000.
However, can't find birth rate data for the moment but I would be interested
to know how they have come up with such a figure so soon after the accident.

Google reveals a few scare stories but they seem to be in Wordpress blogs
and the like.

I suspect a lot of scaremongering by interested parties.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
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"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 20/06/2011 12:59, alexander.keys1 wrote:
Funny how we've not heard about this on the "accurate and impartial"
BBC, seems if one of Uncle Sam's reactors nearly melts down it's not a
problem,

Melts down? I've just done a bit of googling. It looks as though they
had a fire in an electrical switchboard, and had to shut down some pumps
for an hour. 'Time to boil' for the pond affected was estimated at 88.3
hours. So they had an 87.3 hour safety margin.

And the no-fly zone was to stop the news helicopters from getting in the
way.

This was BTW largely garnered from US publicly available media.


The Pakistan rag says
"But, with an already documented 35% increase in the infant mortality rate
for American mothers living in the western coastal regions of the US
caused by radiation blowing onto them from Japan being ignored by these
people there doesn’t seem to be much hope for them. (The EU Times)"

Having spent some time on the West Coast of the US immediately after the
Japan problems I don't recall anything about increased infant mortality,
let alone a 35% increase.
Hmmm...average in 2004 reported as 6.1 per 1,000.
So 35% increase goes up to 8.2 per 1,000.
However, can't find birth rate data for the moment but I would be
interested to know how they have come up with such a figure so soon after
the accident.

Google reveals a few scare stories but they seem to be in Wordpress blogs
and the like.

I suspect a lot of scaremongering by interested parties.


Google finds
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/06/1...shima-fallout/
which gives loads of facts about various things, including Chernobyl and
infant mortality, but give no evidence whatsoever that an increase in infant
mortality in the US is due to the Japanese nuclear problems.
All it seems to say is "we should investigate".
This is not a report of any evidence of a direct link.
I refer the honourable members to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation
Also, I didn't see any comparison with the same month in the previous year -
just a comparison of one month against the previous year's average.
The headline does not report a correlation - just puts a question mark.
So mis-information rules.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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