DSO again?!

On 11/06/2011 16:11, J G Miller wrote:
On Saturday, June 11th, 2011 at 09:19:58h +0100, Silk wrote:

One is still one too many when they have no audience for it. The other
thing that gets forgotten is that being fluent in Welsh is compulsory if
you want a broadcasting job in Wales.

Depends what you mean by "broadcasting job" though, does it not.

One can still get a job in the broadcasting industry in Cymru and not
speak Cymraeg.

I'm pretty sure you need Welsh in order to get Wales based broadcasting
job. Or come from a certain elite section of society. Often one and the
same. They need to face facts, Welsh is a dying language that should
have died years ago.

On 11/06/2011 20:42, Java Jive wrote:
How arrogant! As long as even a small minority are prepared to speak
it and take pleasure from doing so, who are you to say that they
shouldn't?

I have no problem with that. In fact best of luck to them. My problem
with it is the disproportionate amount of time and money spent on
keeping Welsh on life support and the alienation of non-Welsh speakers
from large parts of Welsh society.

I'm speaking as someone who likes the Welsh. I spend quite a large
proportion of my working life there, so I know how the average Welsh
views the Welsh language.

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
charles wrote:

years ago, I had to investgate an interference problem in Cardiff.
The cause was massed local oscillators tuned to Mendip ITV.

How did the mathematics of that work ? Mendip ITV was Ch 61. The
highest and nearest Wenvoe channel was Ch 51, BBC 2. That's OK, a
spacing of 10 ?

I can't see how the tabbo spacings of N+/- 5 and N+/- 9 should ever
have been a problem between the two transmitters ?:-

41, 44, 47, 51

54, 58, 61, 64

For what it's worth I don't recall any problems in the Waltham/Emley
overlap area.

but did thousands of people want to watch Waltham ?

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Silk wrote:
On 11/06/2011 08:49, Mark Carver wrote:
charles wrote:

years ago, I had to investgate an interference problem in Cardiff. The
cause was massed local oscillators tuned to Mendip ITV.

How did the mathematics of that work ? Mendip ITV was Ch 61. The
highest and nearest Wenvoe channel was Ch 51, BBC 2. That's OK, a
spacing of 10 ?

I can't see how the tabbo spacings of N+/- 5 and N+/- 9 should ever
have been a problem between the two transmitters ?:-

41, 44, 47, 51

54, 58, 61, 64

He could have been making it up. Good story though.

Don't be so rude. Charles has more integrity in his little finger than
you have in your entire miserable reptilian carcass.

Bill is only saying that because I once bought him a beer, or two.

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On 12/06/2011 05:37, charles wrote:
In ,
Bill wrote:
Silk wrote:
On 11/06/2011 08:49, Mark Carver wrote:
charles wrote:

years ago, I had to investgate an interference problem in Cardiff. The
cause was massed local oscillators tuned to Mendip ITV.

How did the mathematics of that work ? Mendip ITV was Ch 61. The
highest and nearest Wenvoe channel was Ch 51, BBC 2. That's OK, a
spacing of 10 ?

I can't see how the tabbo spacings of N+/- 5 and N+/- 9 should ever
have been a problem between the two transmitters ?:-

41, 44, 47, 51

54, 58, 61, 64

He could have been making it up. Good story though.

Don't be so rude. Charles has more integrity in his little finger than
you have in your entire miserable reptilian carcass.

Bill is only saying that because I once bought him a beer, or two.

I'm sure senility also has something to do with it.

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:19:58 +0100, Silk wrote:


One is still one too many when they have no audience for it. The other
thing that gets forgotten is that being fluent in Welsh is compulsory if
you want a broadcasting job in Wales. That's just blatant discrimination
when the vast majority of broadcasting jobs only require English in
order to carry them out.

I recall an interview with someone from S4C a few years ago, before
digital TV was started, about the lack of programming for
non-Welsh-speaking Welsh viewers. 'They have the other channels they
can watch.' 'But they don't broadcast anything relevant to life in
Wales.' A fair point, I thought, as a regular visitor to Wales living
in the Midlands.
(I used to be a regular visitor to house in Wales where the TV was on
all the time. Early evening, the news in English was followed by the
news in Welsh, which I would ignore, reading the paper or somesuch.
After some time I realised that I was starting to understand the Welsh
without looking at the pictures for guidance.)

On Sunday, June 12th, 2011 at 10:01:20h +0100, Peter Johnson wrote:

I recall an interview with someone from S4C a few years ago, before
digital TV was started, about the lack of programming for
non-Welsh-speaking Welsh viewers. 'They have the other channels they can
watch.' 'But they don't broadcast anything relevant to life in Wales.'

Not true -- BBC Wales has and does broadcast numerous programs relevant
to life in Wales viz regular programs such as Wales Today, Week in Week Out,
Dragon's Eye, and specials such as currently airing on Monday nights
Welsh Millennium Babies.

The service was even better when BBC-2W was in operation, but the BBC
decided that the people of Cymru should not be allowed to have their
own English language station for a few hours each night and should be
forced fed the programs of London-centric BBC-2.

When HTV Wales existed, they used to carry lots of programs relevant to
life in Wales, but now ITV-1 Wales only manage an occasional airing
of English language programs.

http://itvwalesblog.COM/itv-wales-programmes/

charles wrote:

For what it's worth I don't recall any problems in the Waltham/Emley
overlap area.

but did thousands of people want to watch Waltham ?

Mansfield, for instance, has a curious mix of Emley, Belmont, and
Waltham. Many people had/have two aerials diplexed together.

On the south side Waltham is dominant, on the north, Emley. Belmont pops
up where those two are poor.

Bill

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:11:05 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, June 11th, 2011 at 09:19:58h +0100, Silk wrote:

One is still one too many when they have no audience for it. The other
thing that gets forgotten is that being fluent in Welsh is compulsory if
you want a broadcasting job in Wales.

Depends what you mean by "broadcasting job" though, does it not.

One can still get a job in the broadcasting industry in Cymru and not
speak Cymraeg.

I am sure Steven Moffat, Matthew Smith, David Tennant or John Barrowman
did not have to learn a word of Cymraeg to get their assignments with
BBC Cymru.

I suspect that the above named are thespian types - try giving us a
few names of non-Welsh speakers working for the BBCF ion Wales who
don't appear in front of the camera
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Peter

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On Sunday, June 12th, 2011 at 16:55:24h +0100, Peter suggested:

I suspect that the above named are thespian types

Steven Moffat is not a thespian type, and does not appear in
front of the camera.

How many words of Cymraeg can the sound recordist Julian
Howarth speak?

And how fluent in Cymraeg is Piers Wenger who has been Head
of Drama at BBC Wales since January 2009?