BBC Alba Freeview date unveiled

On 23/05/2011 08:34, charles wrote:
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I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.


perhaps the idea of the channel is to rectify the situation.

Has S4C had a positive effect for the Welsh language. AIUI its audience
figures for Welsh programming have fallen in line with the availability
of C4-UK in Wales, which does rather indicate they were high in the
'analogue only' days, as lots of punters had S4C Welsh programming on
because 'up next' was something from C4 in English ?

Since DSO completed in Wales last March, S4C only carries Welsh language
programmes.

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On 23/05/2011 13:03, Geoff Pearson wrote:


Living in Edinburgh, where no one speaks Gaelic, I am cross that I
will not be able to listen to high quality digital Radio 3 in the
evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

Actually the FM tuner (Technics ST 610L) sounds distinctly better than
TDT - so this is a step forward (by going back).

Some have said, that the 320 kb/s 'HD Audio' stream of Radio 3 via BBCi
provides the best quaility,

http://www.pjf.org.uk/blog/current-a...-audio-online/

However, at a data rate of 144 MB/Hr you'd need a rather high data cap
from your ISP to take regular advantage of it !

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In article , Geoff Pearson
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Living in Edinburgh, where no one speaks Gaelic, I am cross that I
will not be able to listen to high quality digital Radio 3 in the
evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

Actually the FM tuner (Technics ST 610L) sounds distinctly better than
TDT - so this is a step forward (by going back).

Nevertheless, I'd suggest writing to Feedback, etc, to complain about this,
if only for the sake of those who can't get decent FM reception, etc.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 23/05/2011 13:03, Geoff Pearson wrote:


Living in Edinburgh, where no one speaks Gaelic, I am cross that I
will not be able to listen to high quality digital Radio 3 in the
evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

Actually the FM tuner (Technics ST 610L) sounds distinctly better than
TDT - so this is a step forward (by going back).

Some have said, that the 320 kb/s 'HD Audio' stream of Radio 3 via BBCi
provides the best quaility,

I'd personally agree with that. However my real concern is for people for
whom options like the iPlayer or FM are either impractical or cost them
extra money. FWIW One of the reasons I did an assessment of the
distribution of VHF and DAB TXs in January was to help people see how
patchy the coverage of these may be in some parts of Scotland. And I do
wonder what kind of Broadband provision there may be in some of the more
rural areas.

Slainte,

Jim

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On Monday, May 23rd, 2011 at 13:14:03h +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

Since DSO completed in Wales last March, S4C only carries Welsh language
programmes.

This statement is factually incorrect.

S4C carries over night programming in English on Fridays through Sunday,
and also on weeknights when the Cymraeg Parliament is in recess.

http://www.s4c.co.UK/e_press_level2.shtml?id=465

http://www.bbc.co.UK/news/uk-wales-12354075

Furthermore all (as far as I am aware) of the commercials it broadcasts
are also in English only.

On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:39:07 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote:

I am cross that I will not be able to listen to high quality digital
Radio 3 in the evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

The high quality digital Radio 3 is only available as an Internet stream.

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On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:39:07 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote:

I am cross that I will not be able to listen to high quality digital
Radio 3 in the evenings. Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

The high quality digital Radio 3 is only available as an Internet stream.


It is 192k on DTV - most of the time. However, I've also noticed today that
FM sounds more "stereo" than the DTV or DAB as well as a clearer, rounder
sound.

On 23/05/2011 8:34 AM, charles wrote:
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On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same
day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.


perhaps the idea of the channel is to rectify the situation.


to what end? - to preserve their culture?
i can't help that feel that if you don't speak it, and nobody you know
speaks it, it's not really part of your culture at all - it would be
like trying to teach black kids in england to speak an african dialect -
politically correct perhaps but not useful in any way.

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On 23/05/2011 08:34, charles wrote:
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On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same
day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.


perhaps the idea of the channel is to rectify the situation.

For what purpose?

On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:49:16 +0100, "Vic" wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same day
as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

The channel, which has been on air for more than two years, was originally
only available on satellite. However it became available on cable last week.

The move will impact on Freeview coverage of BBC radio channels.

Due to a lack of bandwidth, many of the corporation's radio stations will go
off air when BBC Alba is broadcasting - but not 1 Extra, 5 Live and 6 Music.

Why are BBC radio stations being taken off air? Why not the red
button stuff? As I see it, BBC radio stations are core services but
the red button stuff is not.

Before anyone points out this is Freeview (with the emphasis on the
'view') and radio services are available on other platforms, coverage
of Freeview is far superior to DAB in the Highlands. Though I do not
live in the HiIghlands and cannot speak from personal experience I
believe the some people get better TV reception than FM radio.