BBC Alba Freeview date unveiled

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same day
as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

The channel, which has been on air for more than two years, was originally
only available on satellite. However it became available on cable last week.

The move will impact on Freeview coverage of BBC radio channels.

Due to a lack of bandwidth, many of the corporation's radio stations will go
off air when BBC Alba is broadcasting - but not 1 Extra, 5 Live and 6 Music.

Odd choice of retentions, I'd have thought 4 4 extra should be on there
given the strange coverage of other modes in the area.
Mind you is this some form of political decision?

So, when do we get BBC Estuary, guv... Oh sorry we already have that in BBC
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same
day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

The channel, which has been on air for more than two years, was originally
only available on satellite. However it became available on cable last
week.

The move will impact on Freeview coverage of BBC radio channels.

Due to a lack of bandwidth, many of the corporation's radio stations will
go off air when BBC Alba is broadcasting - but not 1 Extra, 5 Live and 6
Music.

On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same day
as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.

On 23/05/2011 07:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
Odd choice of retentions, I'd have thought 4 4 extra should be on there
given the strange coverage of other modes in the area.
Mind you is this some form of political decision?

I'm taking a guess that gaelic speakers are amongst the richer and more
influential end of the population.

In article ,
Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same
day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.


perhaps the idea of the channel is to rectify the situation.

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In article ,
Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
Odd choice of retentions, I'd have thought 4 4 extra should be on there
given the strange coverage of other modes in the area.
Mind you is this some form of political decision?

I'm taking a guess that gaelic speakers are amongst the richer and more
influential end of the population.

funnily enough, I suspect the exact opppsite.

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charles wrote:
In article ,
Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the same
day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are no
monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.


perhaps the idea of the channel is to rectify the situation.

I think David Mitchell summed up my views on the subject pretty well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvlQX...e_gdata_player

Tim

In article , Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the
same day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are
no monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.

So far as I can find out, it is an entirely 'political' decision where the
BBC Trust was manouvered into a position of feeling they could be branded
'anti Scottish' by a lobby group if they didn't act as they have.

If you look at the 'evidence' in their own published documents it is
clearly not representitive of the general population of Scotland.

It reminds me of the old Tony Hancock line in the Blood Donor where
the Dr says "We're not all Rob Roys, you know!".

And so far as I can tell, no-one involved in BBC radio or TV [1] thinks it
makes much sense. Even one of the presenters on Radio Scotland this morning
was plainly puzzled/unhappy about it. But for obvious reasons they are
unlikely to be too critical on-air.

Slainte,

Jim

[1] Apart from those at Alba TV, I assume!

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In article , Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the
same day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are
no monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.

So far as I can find out, it is an entirely 'political' decision where the
BBC Trust was manouvered into a position of feeling they could be branded
'anti Scottish' by a lobby group if they didn't act as they have.

If you look at the 'evidence' in their own published documents it is
clearly not representitive of the general population of Scotland.

It reminds me of the old Tony Hancock line in the Blood Donor where
the Dr says "We're not all Rob Roys, you know!".

And so far as I can tell, no-one involved in BBC radio or TV [1] thinks it
makes much sense. Even one of the presenters on Radio Scotland this
morning
was plainly puzzled/unhappy about it. But for obvious reasons they are
unlikely to be too critical on-air.

Slainte,

Jim

[1] Apart from those at Alba TV, I assume!

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Living in Edinburgh, where no one speaks Gaelic, I am cross that I will not
be able to listen to high quality digital Radio 3 in the evenings. Digging
out the FM tuner as we speak.

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Silk wrote:
On 23/05/2011 07:49, Vic wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...lands-13479551

The Gaelic channel will be on Freeview Channel 8 from 8 June - the
same day as the digital switchover begins at the Blackhill
transmitter.

I'm not really sure who the BBC are trying to pander to here. I wonder
what the ratings are for this channel, considering the vast majority of
Scottish people can't speak a word of gaelic and have no wish to. At
last count, it was less than 60,000 people who had some knowledge of the
language but not necessarily fluent. The important thing is there are
no monoglot gaelic speakers, so it's completely unnecessary.

So far as I can find out, it is an entirely 'political' decision where
the
BBC Trust was manouvered into a position of feeling they could be branded
'anti Scottish' by a lobby group if they didn't act as they have.

If you look at the 'evidence' in their own published documents it is
clearly not representitive of the general population of Scotland.

It reminds me of the old Tony Hancock line in the Blood Donor where
the Dr says "We're not all Rob Roys, you know!".

And so far as I can tell, no-one involved in BBC radio or TV [1] thinks
it
makes much sense. Even one of the presenters on Radio Scotland this
morning
was plainly puzzled/unhappy about it. But for obvious reasons they are
unlikely to be too critical on-air.

Slainte,

Jim

[1] Apart from those at Alba TV, I assume!

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Living in Edinburgh, where no one speaks Gaelic, I am cross that I will
not be able to listen to high quality digital Radio 3 in the evenings.
Digging out the FM tuner as we speak.

Actually the FM tuner (Technics ST 610L) sounds distinctly better than TDT -
so this is a step forward (by going back).