Ross Freesat HD with foreign firmware no channels now! HELP

I followed a discussion thread on here about flashing with a Telsky
firmware. I did this and I can scan and get channels but they are
from 2201 upwards.

I need help with one of two things, either:

1. Is it possible to dump the channel list, manually edit and then re-
upload
OR
2. reimage with the latest Ross firmware.

I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot. Does anyone know
if there is a .bin equivalent of the Ross firmware so it can be done
from the USB GUI page?

Thanks
Paul

On May 14, 7:38*pm, Paul wrote:
I followed a discussion thread on here about flashing with a Telsky
firmware. *I did this and I can scan and get channels but they are
from 2201 upwards.

I need help with one of two things, either:

1. Is it possible to dump the channel list, manually edit and then re-
upload
OR
2. reimage with the latest Ross firmware.

I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot. *Does anyone know
if there is a .bin equivalent of the Ross firmware so it can be done
from the USB GUI page?

Paul,
I had a problem with the Ross update. I'm not an M$oft user so I
quickly discovered that the Rx wouldn't recognise ext3 or 4 ! I had to
format a stick fat32 ( even ntfs didn't seem to work ) and make sure
there was nothing else on the stick.
Probably no help to you at all !
I'm rapidly getting sick of the sight of the 6110usb. The manual is
rubbish and the menu system not intuitive ( to me).
I might try the Telsky s'ware too.

Paul wrote:
I followed a discussion thread on here about flashing with a Telsky
firmware. I did this and I can scan and get channels but they are
from 2201 upwards.

My Ross HD receiver is happily working with the Telsky firmware, and I
don't understand how you can be getting those channel numbers! The
current Ross HD box is different to the model I upgraded though, so
perhaps that's the problem. Do you have two USB ports?


I need help with one of two things, either:

1. Is it possible to dump the channel list, manually edit and then re-
upload

AFAIK it isn't possible to save the list and edit it on a PC - but this
shouldn't be necessary - with the Ross/Telsky built-in editor you can
put the channels anywhere you like.

OR
2. reimage with the latest Ross firmware.

I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot.

I don't know why the reversion to the old Ross firmware didn't work,
since I tried this myself as an experiment using an IMG file. The
firmware was re-installed automatically from USB when the box booted.
That was some time ago though, and I haven't tried to go backwards from
the current Telsky version.

Does anyone know
if there is a .bin equivalent of the Ross firmware so it can be done
from the USB GUI page?

Yes, the latest version of the Ross firmware for the old HD box is/was
available as a BIN file on request from Ross technical support. I think
it's much the same as the Telsky. I don't know about the new model.

Paul wrote:

I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot.

Just a thought - the Ross panel will always display 'UPd' when the box
is powered up with a USB memory stick plugged in. This means that the
box is searching for a firmware file named miscBls.img, but it does not
mean that it has found it! Even if the stick is completely empty, you
will still get the 'UPd' message.

You have to make sure that the .img file is in the root directory of a
FAT32 formatted stick. In this case, you will see a message on screen
with a progress bar saying that the update is taking place.

--
John L

On May 15, 8:28*pm, John Legon wrote:
Paul wrote:
I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot.

Just a thought - the Ross panel will always display 'UPd' when the box
is powered up with a USB memory stick plugged in. *This means that the
box is searching for a firmware file named miscBls.img, but it does not
mean that it has found it! *Even if the stick is completely empty, you
will still get the 'UPd' message.

You have to make sure that the .img file is in the root directory of a
FAT32 formatted stick. *In this case, you will see a message on screen
with a progress bar saying that the update is taking place.

--
John L

Hi John,
thanks for the reply. Maybe I've done this wrong as I didn't rename
the .img file. Should it be specifically called 'miscBIs.img'?
Thanks
Paul

On May 15, 8:28*pm, John Legon wrote:
Paul wrote:
I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot.

Just a thought - the Ross panel will always display 'UPd' when the box
is powered up with a USB memory stick plugged in. *This means that the
box is searching for a firmware file named miscBls.img, but it does not
mean that it has found it! *Even if the stick is completely empty, you
will still get the 'UPd' message.

You have to make sure that the .img file is in the root directory of a
FAT32 formatted stick. *In this case, you will see a message on screen
with a progress bar saying that the update is taking place.

--
John L

Yep, I think I renamesd it to ross.img. I also didn't leave it long
enough. Hopefully I haven't damaged the flash memory as they say on
their website. Doh
Paul

Paul wrote:
On May 15, 8:28 pm, John Legon wrote:
Paul wrote:
I tried the Ross upgrade with the .img from a USB stick, it says 'UPG'
on the panel but then is still Telsky when I reboot.

Just a thought - the Ross panel will always display 'UPd' when the box
is powered up with a USB memory stick plugged in. This means that the
box is searching for a firmware file named miscBls.img, but it does not
mean that it has found it! Even if the stick is completely empty, you
will still get the 'UPd' message.

You have to make sure that the .img file is in the root directory of a
FAT32 formatted stick. In this case, you will see a message on screen
with a progress bar saying that the update is taking place.

Yep, I think I renamesd it to ross.img. I also didn't leave it long
enough. Hopefully I haven't damaged the flash memory as they say on
their website. Doh

I don't think you will have damaged the flash memory, but even if your
current firmware has become corrupted, there's a good chance that the
img file update will be OK since this is installed by the boot-loader,
which AIUI is stored in protected memory. There isn't an option to use
a file named anything other than miscBls.img ; if the name is wrong then
the file won't be found.

--
John L

Hi John,
I put the .img filename back to the original and reflashed this
evening and it WORKED!!! Also I have been in contact with Ross
support who have been brilliant and Stuart mailed me a new firmware
image (1.0.7) as a .bin file so I am going to try that now ;-)
I appreciate your time replying.
Thanks again
Paul

On May 16, 9:51*pm, Paul wrote:
Hi John,
* I put the .img filename back to the original and reflashed this
evening and it WORKED!!! *Also I have been in contact withRoss
support who have been brilliant and Stuart mailed me a new firmware
image (1.0.7) as a .bin file so I am going to try that now ;-)
I appreciate your time replying.
Thanks again
Paul

Another question?

If I learn of new channels on 28.8 east can I manually add them to a
Ross HD box? Do you know if an automatic scan on the Ross will pick
everything up including new stuff?
Thanks
Paul

Paul wrote:
Another question?

No problem...

If I learn of new channels on 28.8 east can I manually add them to a
Ross HD box?

Yes, in general it's easiest to do a scan of the specific transponder,
and the Ross will add the new channel(s) to the list. This assumes that
the transponder is already in the receiver's database, but if it isn't,
you just enter the details using the "add transponder" option.

There is also the menu option "Manual Add Service", but I've never used
this except to enter details of the Freesat EPG.

Do you know if an automatic scan on the Ross will pick
everything up including new stuff?

An automatic scan will pick up everything that's available, provided
the list of transponders is complete. This also assumes that you're
getting a strong enough signal from the weaker transponders, which isn't
necessarily the case.

--
John L