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Hi,
I have a SamSung HDTV which is capable for 240Hz. But why there is no HDMI cable which is 240Hz (only ones I find is 120Hz) and why the bluray player I see does not say what Hz it can support? an example of bluray player: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-C55.../ref=de_a_smtd |
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... Hi, I have a SamSung HDTV which is capable for 240Hz. But why there is no HDMI cable which is 240Hz (only ones I find is 120Hz) and why the bluray player I see does not say what Hz it can support? an example of bluray player: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-C55.../ref=de_a_smtd For the life of me I cannot understand why any good HDMI cable would not work at 240Hz. It's any HF content that could become an issue -- Regards, Richard Harison |
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"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ... On 08/05/2011 8:21 PM, wrote: Hi, I have a SamSung HDTV which is capable for 240Hz. But why there is no HDMI cable which is 240Hz (only ones I find is 120Hz) and why the bluray player I see does not say what Hz it can support? an example of bluray player: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-C55.../ref=de_a_smtd you have no 240hz signals to feed it. blu rays - 24hz. tv, 60hz 240hz is just the rate at which the screen updates - by repeating each frame a number of times and trying to guess what might be inbetween. -- Gareth. That fly.... Is your magic wand. Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! -- Regards, Richard Harison |
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Stocked right next to the HD TV antennas.
Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! -- Regards, Richard Harison |
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On 5/8/11 PDT 5:57 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
Stocked right next to the HD TV antennas. Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! Any different from digital ready cables to begin with? But I am happy with my Hi Def coffee table........ |
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On Sun, 8 May 2011 12:21:33 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Hi, I have a SamSung HDTV which is capable for 240Hz. But why there is no HDMI cable which is 240Hz (only ones I find is 120Hz) and why the bluray player I see does not say what Hz it can support? .... As others have explained, it is the processing in the TV that increase the displayed frame rate by motion interpolation. The highest input frame(field) rate that any of these TV:s can work width is (to my knowledge) 60Hz. Assuming that you like to know more about the 120/240Hz feature I include below an explanation on how I understand it: ----- 240Hz is an attempt to take a step further in the same direction so first a discussion on the 120Hz: The first scenario is with material that has truly interlaced content at 60Hz, which shows the objects at a new position in each field (= half frame) . Consider an LCD with essentially a steady back light. The problem here is a blurring that is created in our eyes when a picture is shown for 16ms at one position on the screen before it moves to the next position and is held still. The blurring is created when we try to follow the motion with your eyes (of a scrolling news ticker for example). In this scenario the goal is to reduce this blur width by moving the objects on the screen to a new (calculated) position between the positions in the input material. 120Hz (8ms) means that the blur effect is halved. Interpolating to 240Hz should decrease this part of the blur further, but there is also a response time in the LCD pixels that might limit the visible advantage. The second scenario, which for me is more important, is when the material is from the low frame rate of film. (In Europe it is common to play back 24Hz material frame by frame in a 2:2 sequencing so that the shown frames effectively is showing as progressive material. That means that we don't have the 3:2 "judder" but the displayed motion is 25Hz and this is so low that a low frequency "judder" or stroboscope effect is visible. This is similar to the 24Hz from a Blu-Ray when played back at 24Hz. The goal when processing such material is to achieve a smoother motion. In both these scenarios, the key point is that new positions of the objects must be calculated in the created intermediate frames. The discussion above is based on LCD that is backlit with effectively a steady back light but the low frequency stroboscope effect can also be seen on plasma panels. /Jan |
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"John McWilliams" wrote in message ... On 5/8/11 PDT 5:57 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote: Stocked right next to the HD TV antennas. Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! Any different from digital ready cables to begin with? But I am happy with my Hi Def coffee table........ Monster table? |
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DockScience wrote:
"John wrote On 5/8/11 PDT 5:57 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote: Stocked right next to the HD TV antennas. Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! Any different from digital ready cables to begin with? But I am happy with my Hi Def coffee table........ Monster table? LOL!!! Probably! ![]() bj |
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On 5/9/11 PDT 2:19 PM, chicagofan wrote:
DockScience wrote: "John wrote On 5/8/11 PDT 5:57 PM, Stephen H. Fischer wrote: Stocked right next to the HD TV antennas. Therefore anybody hyping a 240Hz ready HDMI cable is,well, conning the public! Any different from digital ready cables to begin with? But I am happy with my Hi Def coffee table........ Monster table? LOL!!! Probably! ![]() Yes, and it cost only three times that of the regular, old-fashioned analog coffee table. Looked awfully similar, though. |
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