Freeview HD Channel numbering

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

51 BBC1 HD - not 50
52 BBC HD - not 54
53 ITV HD - not 51
54 C4 HD - not 52


Those are the numbers I "naturally" want to press.

On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 15:52:41h +0100, Anon asked:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

Many modern TVs actually allow you to reassign the LCN
and reorder the stations on the EPG according to your
preference.

Of the Freeview HD TVs I have seen in a certain branch
of John Lewis, this was indeed possible on both Samsung
and SONY models.

On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 15:52:41h +0100, Anon asked:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

Many modern TVs actually allow you to reassign the LCN
and reorder the stations on the EPG according to your
preference.

Of the Freeview HD TVs I have seen in a certain branch
of John Lewis, this was indeed possible on both Samsung
and SONY models.

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 15:52:41h +0100, Anon asked:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

Many modern TVs actually allow you to reassign the LCN
and reorder the stations on the EPG according to your
preference.

Of the Freeview HD TVs I have seen in a certain branch
of John Lewis, this was indeed possible on both Samsung
and SONY models.

And when new channels are added or old channels are removed from the EPG
what happens?

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.

On Sun, 8 May 2011 00:57:56 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 15:52:41h +0100, Anon asked:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

Many modern TVs actually allow you to reassign the LCN
and reorder the stations on the EPG according to your
preference.

Of the Freeview HD TVs I have seen in a certain branch
of John Lewis, this was indeed possible on both Samsung
and SONY models.

Why would you want to reassign the numbers? I assume, to make them
more logical. The question posed by OP was whether it would make
sense for the broadcasters to reassign the numbers to make them more
logical.

On Sun, 08 May 2011 10:48:41 +0100, Scott wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2011 00:57:56 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 15:52:41h +0100, Anon asked:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

Many modern TVs actually allow you to reassign the LCN
and reorder the stations on the EPG according to your
preference.

Of the Freeview HD TVs I have seen in a certain branch
of John Lewis, this was indeed possible on both Samsung
and SONY models.

Why would you want to reassign the numbers? I assume, to make them
more logical. The question posed by OP was whether it would make
sense for the broadcasters to reassign the numbers to make them more
logical.

On my Samsung FV I've numbered BBC 1 - 4, ITV 1 - 4, Ch. 4 and 5 as 1 - 10.
Haven't bothered much with the others.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On Sun, 08 May 2011 10:48:41 +0100, Scott wrote:

Why would you want to reassign the numbers?

Because one may want to move stations down from the 800s to a vacant channel
eg assuming one is in England and can receive an adjacent Cymraeg transmitter
BBC-1 Wales to 61, BBC-2 Wales to 62, ITV-1 Wales to 63, S4C to 8 etc,
ITV-1 HD Wales (actually the ITV-1 London feed) to 55.

Similarly for people near the English Scottish national frontier.

The question posed by OP was whether it would make sense for
the broadcasters to reassign the numbers to make them more logical.

But it is not up to the broadcaster.

It is decided by the Central Committee for EPG Coordination.

On Sun, 8 May 2011 16:20:25 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2011 10:48:41 +0100, Scott wrote:

Why would you want to reassign the numbers?

Because one may want to move stations down from the 800s to a vacant channel
eg assuming one is in England and can receive an adjacent Cymraeg transmitter
BBC-1 Wales to 61, BBC-2 Wales to 62, ITV-1 Wales to 63, S4C to 8 etc,
ITV-1 HD Wales (actually the ITV-1 London feed) to 55.

Similarly for people near the English Scottish national frontier.

The question posed by OP was whether it would make sense for
the broadcasters to reassign the numbers to make them more logical.

But it is not up to the broadcaster.

It is decided by the Central Committee for EPG Coordination.

I really think that the question the OP was asking was why whoever is
responsible did not follow a more logical sequence in setting the
channel numbers.

He was asking why not BBC1 = 51, BBC HD = 52, ITV(STV) = 53, Channel 4
= 54. I often wondered the same myself. No-one has so far addressed
the direct question.

On Sun, 08 May 2011 18:13:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I really think that the question the OP was asking was why whoever is
responsible did not follow a more logical sequence in setting the
channel numbers.

And I think the answer to that question has already been given.

When the National Central Standing Committee for the Allocation of LCNs convened,
it was tasked with assigning LCNs for BBC HD, ITV-1 HD / stv HD / utv HD, C4,
and S4C, and the anticipated late arrival of five, which it did according to the simple
numerical progression 50, 51, 52, 53, showing favoritism to the BBC by ordering it
in position number 1, and placing ITV-1 HD on a "1" position.

But then five dropped out of the Freeview HD proposals and thus was replaced with
BBC-1 HD. This conundrum was resolved by the NCSCFTAOL placing BBC-1 HD on 50
and shunting BBC HD to 54.

No-one has so far addressed the direct question.

I trust that the above explanation will suffice as an answer to the direct
question.

On Sun, 8 May 2011 17:56:52 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2011 18:13:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I really think that the question the OP was asking was why whoever is
responsible did not follow a more logical sequence in setting the
channel numbers.

And I think the answer to that question has already been given.

When the National Central Standing Committee for the Allocation of LCNs convened,
it was tasked with assigning LCNs for BBC HD, ITV-1 HD / stv HD / utv HD, C4,
and S4C, and the anticipated late arrival of five, which it did according to the simple
numerical progression 50, 51, 52, 53, showing favoritism to the BBC by ordering it
in position number 1, and placing ITV-1 HD on a "1" position.

But then five dropped out of the Freeview HD proposals and thus was replaced with
BBC-1 HD. This conundrum was resolved by the NCSCFTAOL placing BBC-1 HD on 50
and shunting BBC HD to 54.

No-one has so far addressed the direct question.

I trust that the above explanation will suffice as an answer to the direct
question.

No, I don't think it does. The original question was:

Wouldn't it make more sense if channels we

51 BBC1 HD - not 50
52 BBC HD - not 54
53 ITV HD - not 51
54 C4 HD - not 52

I don't think anyone is disputing that the numbers were validly
assigned by the competent authority. The question is about sense not
legality.

To repeat again, the suggestion is that BBC One could be 51
Channel 3 (ITV-1/STV/UTV/Channel) could be 53
Channel 4 could be 54. The second digit would then have a logical and
memorable connection to the channel.