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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote: Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died noticeably younger than those who retired at 65. Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in employment keeps you fit, healthy and active. |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:44:01 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died noticeably younger than those who retired at 65. Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in employment keeps you fit, healthy and active. It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up ladders and steps all day long at that age. Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity. My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases. Bill |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 14:07:53 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote: Peter Duncanson wrote: It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up ladders and steps all day long at that age. Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity. My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases. I am sure that you also knew people who died within a year of retiring too. Researching railway history I often come across reports made to the directors about old men who have spent many years in company service. They are now an advanced age, without a pension and incapable of work in any capacity. The directors often awarded a nominal sum for six or 12 months, I am certain in the knowledge that the old man would be dead before the time expired. |
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In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus Peter Duncanson wrote: It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up ladders and steps all day long at that age. Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity. My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases. Bill So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the human fame then?.. -- Tony Sayer |
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On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 14:07:53h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:
Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. So you supported the French labourers who were against the raising of the retirement age by the Sarkozy administration then? |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 13:37:00 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:44:01 +0100, Albert Ross wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died noticeably younger than those who retired at 65. Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in employment keeps you fit, healthy and active. It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Apart from the local food quality I think another reason for the longevity around these parts is the fact people remain socially and physically active as long as possible. It's a balance thing. I knew someone who was very active in his job as stores supervisor. When he retired he bacame a couch potato. His brother related a story where he yelled for his wife (who was cooking his dinner) to pass him the remote control which was just out of his reach. He didn;t survivie a year after retirement. |
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 19:41:46 +0100, tony sayer
wrote: In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus Peter Duncanson wrote: It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up ladders and steps all day long at that age. Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity. My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases. Bill So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the human fame then?.. Like everything there's genetic variation, but I favour the concept of looking to wee what we evolved to do, and eat, and following a lifestyle that doesn't trigger any of the "emergency genes" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ You see other athletes, and some of those cute lttle gymnast girls who stress themselves out physically and have the joint and other problems of an elderly person thirty years early. One of the hospital doctors I met recently opined that many of the current "diseases of civilisation" used to be "diseases of old age" but dietary and other factors served to produce them much sooner. I suspect that as hard physical labour becomes reduced the factors will change but the end result won't. Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health benefits. |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:38:00 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote: On Sat, 7 May 2011 19:41:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote: In article , Bill Wright scribeth thus Peter Duncanson wrote: It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not contribute to his/her physical wellbeing. Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up ladders and steps all day long at that age. Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity. My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases. Bill So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the human fame then?.. Like everything there's genetic variation, but I favour the concept of looking to wee what we evolved to do, and eat, and following a lifestyle that doesn't trigger any of the "emergency genes" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ You see other athletes, and some of those cute lttle gymnast girls who stress themselves out physically and have the joint and other problems of an elderly person thirty years early. One of the hospital doctors I met recently opined that many of the current "diseases of civilisation" used to be "diseases of old age" but dietary and other factors served to produce them much sooner. To some extent "old age" has been redefined by substantial increases in life expectancy. So sometimes what used to be "diseases of old age" are occurring at the same age as they used to but at an earlier stage in a person's life. I suspect that as hard physical labour becomes reduced the factors will change but the end result won't. Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health benefits. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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In article , Albert Ross
wrote: Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health benefits. I'm sure that enjoying your work must have a lot to do with it. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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