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Old May 7th 11, 01:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Albert Ross
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
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Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the
population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life
expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a
mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a
pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died
noticeably younger than those who retired at 65.


Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in
employment keeps you fit, healthy and active.
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Old May 7th 11, 02:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:44:01 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:


Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the
population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life
expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a
mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a
pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died
noticeably younger than those who retired at 65.


Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in
employment keeps you fit, healthy and active.


It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.

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Old May 7th 11, 03:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Peter Duncanson wrote:

It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up
ladders and steps all day long at that age.

Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because
physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity.

My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body
was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints
and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases.

Bill
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Old May 7th 11, 03:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 14:07:53 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Peter Duncanson wrote:

It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up
ladders and steps all day long at that age.

Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because
physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity.

My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body
was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints
and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases.


I am sure that you also knew people who died within a year of retiring
too. Researching railway history I often come across reports made to
the directors about old men who have spent many years in company
service. They are now an advanced age, without a pension and incapable
of work in any capacity. The directors often awarded a nominal sum for
six or 12 months, I am certain in the knowledge that the old man would
be dead before the time expired.
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Old May 7th 11, 08:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
tony sayer
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In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Peter Duncanson wrote:

It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up
ladders and steps all day long at that age.

Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because
physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity.

My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body
was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints
and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases.

Bill


So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the
human fame then?..
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Old May 8th 11, 03:29 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Saturday, May 7th, 2011 at 14:07:53h +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire.


So you supported the French labourers who were against the raising of
the retirement age by the Sarkozy administration then?
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Old May 14th 11, 02:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Albert Ross
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 13:37:00 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:44:01 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:14 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:


Raising the retirement age could "adjust" the age distribution of the
population. Some time ago, 1970s/80s/90s?, research was done on the life
expectancy of high court judges in England and Wales. Judges had a
mandatory retirement age of 70 but were able to retire and draw a
pension at 65. The study found that those who retired at 70 died
noticeably younger than those who retired at 65.


Interesting, and goes against the soundbyte that remaining in
employment keeps you fit, healthy and active.


It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Apart from the local food quality I think another reason for the
longevity around these parts is the fact people remain socially and
physically active as long as possible. It's a balance thing.

I knew someone who was very active in his job as stores supervisor.
When he retired he bacame a couch potato. His brother related a story
where he yelled for his wife (who was cooking his dinner) to pass him
the remote control which was just out of his reach. He didn;t survivie
a year after retirement.
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Old May 14th 11, 02:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 19:41:46 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Peter Duncanson wrote:

It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up
ladders and steps all day long at that age.

Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because
physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity.

My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body
was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints
and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases.

Bill


So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the
human fame then?..


Like everything there's genetic variation, but I favour the concept of
looking to wee what we evolved to do, and eat, and following a
lifestyle that doesn't trigger any of the "emergency genes"

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

You see other athletes, and some of those cute lttle gymnast girls who
stress themselves out physically and have the joint and other problems
of an elderly person thirty years early.

One of the hospital doctors I met recently opined that many of the
current "diseases of civilisation" used to be "diseases of old age"
but dietary and other factors served to produce them much sooner.

I suspect that as hard physical labour becomes reduced the factors
will change but the end result won't.

Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one
wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health
benefits.
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Old May 14th 11, 03:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:38:00 +0100, Albert Ross
wrote:

On Sat, 7 May 2011 19:41:46 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Peter Duncanson wrote:

It would depend of the nature of the job. A judge will be kept mentally
active, but sitting almost motionless in court for hours a day will not
contribute to his/her physical wellbeing.


Guys doing labouring jobs are worn out totally at 60, and they should be
allowed to retire. The human body isn't made to carry heavy burdens up
ladders and steps all day long at that age.

Different occupations should have different retirement ages, because
physical stress sets in earlier than mental infirmity.

My grandad laboured down the pit until his 65th birthday, and his body
was broken. He lived another ten years but in constant pain from joints
and so forth. However he avoided the usual lung diseases.

Bill


So somewhere there must be the optimum amount of physical work for the
human fame then?..


Like everything there's genetic variation, but I favour the concept of
looking to wee what we evolved to do, and eat, and following a
lifestyle that doesn't trigger any of the "emergency genes"

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

You see other athletes, and some of those cute lttle gymnast girls who
stress themselves out physically and have the joint and other problems
of an elderly person thirty years early.

One of the hospital doctors I met recently opined that many of the
current "diseases of civilisation" used to be "diseases of old age"
but dietary and other factors served to produce them much sooner.

To some extent "old age" has been redefined by substantial increases in
life expectancy. So sometimes what used to be "diseases of old age" are
occurring at the same age as they used to but at an earlier stage in a
person's life.

I suspect that as hard physical labour becomes reduced the factors
will change but the end result won't.

Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one
wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health
benefits.


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Old May 15th 11, 11:12 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Albert Ross
wrote:
Musicians are often long lived (Hendrix etc. being exceptions) one
wonders whether the brass bands, male voice choirs, etc. had health
benefits.


I'm sure that enjoying your work must have a lot to do with it.

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