new tv is 50hz ok

On Thursday, April 21st, 2011 at 12:20:46h +0100, Alan White wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:08:25 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

I spent some time worrying about all that but just before Xmas we bought
a Sony KDL40EX503U and quite frankly I've err .. umm .. just enjoyed the
programmes can't fault it at all...

Same here :-)

Very favorable in depth review to be found here --

http://www.hdtvtest.co.UK/news/sony-kdl40ex503-kdl40ex503u-20100603700.htm

Seems like a "economically priced" basic receiver for DVB-t2 reception and
display of Full HD source material.

"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:08:25 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

I spent some time worrying about all that but just before Xmas we bought
a Sony KDL40EX503U and quite frankly I've err .. umm .. just enjoyed the
programmes can't fault it at all...

Same here :-)

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713U here a stunning set, no complaints, not sure what the difference is
with the 503U

Steve Thackery wrote:

You've only got to see how dreadful even a fairly slow pan looks on a
cinema screen.

I think this has been exagerated by a recent tendancy towards faster shutter speeds.

Ironically, CGI programmers have put a lot of effort and CPU into
making the "right" motion blur in each frame, whilst the film makers
seem to be losing it.

BugBear

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:52:11 +0100, "Brian Gregory [UK]"
wrote:

"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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Faster refresh rates may or may not help with motion blur.

For me, I can easily see a 50Hz flicker, so - motion blur aside - I
simply
must have a 100Hz or higher refresh rate (actually my flicker-detection
neurons top out at about 85Hz).

If your TV behaves like a cinema projector - simply flashing each
picture
up two or more times - then you will escape the headache-inducing 50Hz
flicker but it won't help at all towards reducing motion blur.

Flicker is a totally different issue.
LCD screens do not flicker in the way that CRTs do.

That is correct. I don't understand why their is fashion for have
100Hz or even higher for LCD panels. It is just a question of higher
numbers being "better" for the marketing department.

I thought flicker was only a problem with CRTs. This has certainly been my
experience of computer monitors, where increasing the refresh rate from 60
to 75 Hz reduces the flicker noticeably, whereas LCDs (with their longer
persistence) work all right at 60.

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"bugbear" wrote in message
o.uk...
Steve Thackery wrote:

You've only got to see how dreadful even a fairly slow pan looks on a
cinema screen.

I think this has been exagerated by a recent tendancy towards faster
shutter speeds.

Ironically, CGI programmers have put a lot of effort and CPU into
making the "right" motion blur in each frame, whilst the film makers
seem to be losing it.

Since when? My experience of making videocaps from feature films would
suggest that the shutter speed remains a constant proportion of the 24 fps
regardless of lighting conditions.

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Max Demian

"Brian Gregory [UK]" wrote in message
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Flicker is a totally different issue.
LCD screens do not flicker in the way that CRTs do.


True - mine's a plasma.

SteveT

"Max Demian" wrote in message ...


I thought flicker was only a problem with CRTs. This has certainly been my
experience of computer monitors, where increasing the refresh rate from 60
to 75 Hz reduces the flicker noticeably, whereas LCDs (with their longer
persistence) work all right at 60.


Sorry - I should have said that mine was a plasma, which are still prone to
flicker. Dunno what type of screen Samsung use.

SteveT

"viewer" wrote in message
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I also bought the 32EX503 (1080 + 100Hz motionflow + Freeview HD) and
find it excellent - the best LCD picture I've seen - particularly good
on SD transmissions.


I got the 46" Sony with Freeview and Freesat, and was so distracted by the
backlight bleed I gave it away to a family member. What a waste of a
thousand quid.

Its replacement - a 50" Panny plasma - suffers from flicker, and again I'm
really disappointed with it. It reckons to have "600Hz sub-frame
processing", which most retailers (and reviewers, apparently) think means
"600Hz refresh". I think it means nothing - marketing ********. They
wanted a big number in front of the letters "Hz" to fool everybody.

Even though I do the most careful research, reading lots of professional and
owner reviews, I don't have much luck choosing tellies, as you can see.

SteveT

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"viewer" wrote in message
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I also bought the 32EX503 (1080 + 100Hz motionflow + Freeview HD) and
find it excellent - the best LCD picture I've seen - particularly good
on SD transmissions.


I got the 46" Sony with Freeview and Freesat,

Which model was that then?..


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Tony Sayer

"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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"Brian Gregory [UK]" wrote in message
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Flicker is a totally different issue.
LCD screens do not flicker in the way that CRTs do.


True - mine's a plasma.

I tend to forget about plasma since I don't think I'd ever want one. They
use too much power and often emit a fair bit of radio interference in the HF
bands.

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