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Old April 18th 11, 03:09 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Direct TV 1080p

Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

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O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir,I wanted to blow it the hell up.
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Old April 18th 11, 05:52 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Daniel who wants to know
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message
...
Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir,I wanted to blow it the hell up.


I fixed the thread title for you, DirecTV only has 1 "T" and is all 1 word,
I am not a current subscriber but I do have a Samsung SIR-TS360 sitting in
front of me that I use to watch OTA and listen to the music on DirecTV
channel 100, all others say to call ext. 711 as I have the wrong card in it.

In all honesty it doesn't really matter what HD res it is nor whether it is
interlaced or progressive unless it is a still image as the bitrate is far
too low. I recall someone recently mentioning that it is "HD lite" and that
OTA is 19 megabits per second assuming no subchannels, Blu-ray is 35 IIRC
and sat is more like 10, granted sat is MPEG4 so it is a little better at
compression hence the lower number isn't really that bad.

I have no experience with the DirecTV HD service but if it is anything like
the SD service I have sometimes seen a clearer image from analog NTSC over
the air than DirecTV delivered through s-video.

The last time I had service my SD locals were delivered by a spot beam on
transponder 31 sat b (119).


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Old April 18th 11, 02:24 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
the dog from that film you saw[_3_]
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Default Direct TV 1080p

On 18/04/2011 2:09 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

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that says the most movies - maybe that's true in comparison to other tv
providers.

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Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.
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Old April 18th 11, 04:25 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
LightByrd
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Default Direct TV 1080p

"Metspitzer" wrote in message
...
Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

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Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped plasma or
LCD upconvert to 1080p?
(My Sony CRT only upconverts SD to 1080i)

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Regards,
Richard Harison


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Old April 18th 11, 04:32 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Bert Hyman
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Default Direct TV 1080p

In "LightByrd"
wrote:

Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped
plasma or LCD upconvert to 1080p?


I'm sure you can "upconvert" almost any lower-resolution image to a
higher one by duplicating or interpolating image data, but if the
information isn't in the original image, you can't create resolution out
of nothing.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
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Old April 18th 11, 05:12 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
the dog from that film you saw[_3_]
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Default Direct TV 1080p

On 18/04/2011 3:25 PM, LightByrd wrote:
wrote in message
...
Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

--


Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped plasma or
LCD upconvert to 1080p?
(My Sony CRT only upconverts SD to 1080i)



you do need a 1080p screen to show 1080i (ignoring crts ) - but that's
not the same as watching a 1080p signal.

--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.
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Old April 18th 11, 06:31 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default Direct TV 1080p

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:09:41 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

Since I open my mail in the bathroom and keep a phone in there, I had
some free time. I called Direct TV to ask what channels were in
1080p. The tech guy said...All HD channels are 1080p. This is a lie.
As far as I can tell no station that is not PPV is in 1080p. I
explained to him that my TV reports what resolution the channels are.
I told them that some reported 480, 720 and 1080i but I found not
channel, even the movie channels, are 1080p.

Here is a clip from the flyer I had when I changed to Direct TV.
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/0013q.jpg/

Unfortunately as is all too common these days, customer support people
at DirecTV are generally ignorant of anything that is not on their
"script".

I've had DirecTV for many years, and HD for about 3, and your analysis
of 1080p is 99 % correct. You can occasionally download a "short" from
DirecTV's "On Demand" in 1080p (an internet download, not via
satellite), but other than that, the only thing I've seen in 1080p are
PPV movies.

Supposedly, some Sports channels (ESPN?) are to be in 1080p, and even
in 3D, but I don't think there's anything there yet.
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Old April 18th 11, 07:07 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
LightByrd
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Default Direct TV 1080p

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message
. ..
In "LightByrd"
wrote:

Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped
plasma or LCD upconvert to 1080p?


I'm sure you can "upconvert" almost any lower-resolution image to a
higher one by duplicating or interpolating image data, but if the
information isn't in the original image, you can't create resolution out
of nothing.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN


Yes, Bert, but suppose an LCD receives a 1080i signal.
Can't it convert it to 1080p?

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Regards,
Richard Harison


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Old April 18th 11, 07:50 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Bert Hyman
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Default Direct TV 1080p

In "LightByrd"
wrote:

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message
. ..
In "LightByrd"
wrote:

Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped
plasma or LCD upconvert to 1080p?


I'm sure you can "upconvert" almost any lower-resolution image to a
higher one by duplicating or interpolating image data, but if the
information isn't in the original image, you can't create resolution
out of nothing.


Yes, Bert, but suppose an LCD receives a 1080i signal.
Can't it convert it to 1080p?


Sure, if the feature's built into the set.

Take the two half frames from the interlaced original, drop them
into a frame buffer and pump out a single progressively scanned frame.
It will probably have to output each reconstructed frame twice to
prevent flicker, or something like that.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
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Old April 18th 11, 08:50 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
LightByrd
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Default Direct TV 1080p

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message
.. .
In "LightByrd"
wrote:

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message
. ..
In "LightByrd"
wrote:

Have I been living in a closet too long, or does not an equipped
plasma or LCD upconvert to 1080p?

I'm sure you can "upconvert" almost any lower-resolution image to a
higher one by duplicating or interpolating image data, but if the
information isn't in the original image, you can't create resolution
out of nothing.


Yes, Bert, but suppose an LCD receives a 1080i signal.
Can't it convert it to 1080p?


Sure, if the feature's built into the set.

Take the two half frames from the interlaced original, drop them
into a frame buffer and pump out a single progressively scanned frame.
It will probably have to output each reconstructed frame twice to
prevent flicker, or something like that.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN


So IOW one is technically getting 1080p even though not broadcast as such.
Maybe that's why some cable/sat companies claim it

--
Regards,
Richard Harison


 




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