Bad sound

On 13/04/2011 13:20, MartinR wrote:
On Apr 13, 12:02 am, wrote:
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?
--
Davey.

Simples. Just plug in a set of amplified computer speakers using the
headphone output. Worked for ours and decent speakers, much better
than the built-in ones, can be had for about £20-£30.

You might need to use the headphone output anyway, and not the Scart.
Remember, the LCD screen will have latency, typically 100-200 ms. The
audio signal via the H/P socket will be delayed accordingly, the Scart
output won't be.

--
Mark
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"Davey" wrote in message
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Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?

I use a set of these in the headphone jack on mine and they sound great:
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/344116...Cprd :3441169

Paul

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:31:00 +0100
"Paulg0" wrote:



"Davey" wrote in message
...
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?

I use a set of these in the headphone jack on mine and they sound
great:
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/344116...Cprd :3441169

Paul




Neat! I was in our only local computer shop today, and described my
requirements. They offered a Thrust, but did not recommend it, or a
Logitech LS21, both at about 25 quid.
--
Davey.

"Davey" wrote in message
...
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?
--
Davey.

I'm very happy with the sound from a pair of Creative T20 Mk II amplified
speakers, fed from the phono sockets on a 32" Sony - about £55 from many
suppliers.

Mains switching is via a radio-controlled 13A mains socket (from Lidl's some
time ago), although the quiescent power consumption of the Class D amp is so
low it's hardly worth switching off.

TrevM

Trev M wrote:
wrote in message
...
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?
--
Davey.

I'm very happy with the sound from a pair of Creative T20 Mk II amplified
speakers, fed from the phono sockets on a 32" Sony - about £55 from many
suppliers.

Mains switching is via a radio-controlled 13A mains socket (from Lidl's some
time ago), although the quiescent power consumption of the Class D amp is so
low it's hardly worth switching off.


I was looking at these the other day

http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/tannoy-mercury-bookshelf-speakers-apple-finish-p-565.html

Seems like a reasonable buy.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
Yes at least one of the scarts will have outputs on it (or how would VCR
record sound and pictures from the TV?)

How often was this ever done?

I agree the spec for a SCART says it should have outputs too, though.

Even cheap Tesco own brand ones (Technika) have audio out on the SCART.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:18:24 +0100
David Woolley wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
Yes at least one of the scarts will have outputs on it (or how
would VCR record sound and pictures from the TV?)

How often was this ever done?

I agree the spec for a SCART says it should have outputs too,
though.

Even cheap Tesco own brand ones (Technika) have audio out on the
SCART.

But is there audio out available on the SCART connector if that
particular SCART input is not the selected input? IE, if the set is
using the "TV" input, does a SCART connection provide an audio signal?
I tried to ask Toshiba this question a few times today, but their page
was "unavailable".
--
Davey.

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:55:12 +0100, bugbear
wrote:

Davey wrote:

There is no mention of recording FROM the TV, only connecting external
inputs.

Something along the lines of this would be suitable, it can be
switched between acting as input or output and will let you run a
phono lead to some other amplifier.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg


Yes, I can borrow one of them. Good idea, thanks. At least it will
confirm if I can get any output from the set.

The manual says (on page 8) that both SCART1 and SCART2 a
"INPUT/TV OUT"

which sounds promising

I have a slight doubt about that. I seem to recall reading somewhere
that the audio output on the Scart socket of some TVs is the audio from
the TV's tuner. It is the sound from the most recently selected analogue
or digital channel even if the TV is showing stuff from an external
source, STB, DVD player, whatever.

I don't know whether this is the case for all makes and models.


Yes that might be done for various reasons, though it sounds rather unusual
because I would think there would normally only be one tuner used for both
analogue and digital.

However when the TV is receiving and displaying a digital channel there
probably won't be an analogue composite video version of what you are
watching available to send to the SCART output pins so you have to choose
whether to send blank video plus the sound from what you are watching,
nothing at all or something else entirely to the SCART.

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Davey wrote:
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?

Most modern TVs are all screen and no speakers. Hence the crappy sound.

An adaptor lead from Maplin etc will allow you to feed the headphone
socket into an external amp. You'll probably have to set the level from
the headphone socket carefully to avoid overload.

You might also be able to pick up a suitable feed from a SCART socket -
which might be in a better place as regards seeing cables dangling. That
would also likely be a fixed level signal rather than variable like the
headphone one.

If you're going to use the headphone socket you really want to make an
attenuator with some resistors to reduce the level otherwise you're probably
going to get way to much signal to input to an amplifier, possibly even
enough to damage the amplifier it if you accidentally turn up the volume too
much on the TV.

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

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"Brian Gregory [UK]" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Davey wrote:
Just got my first digital TVs, and they sound hollow. Not surprising
with such small loudspeakers. Any ideas on how to make the sound
better, first using the built-in 'speakers, and also how to match a
headphone socket output to an amplifier input?

Most modern TVs are all screen and no speakers. Hence the crappy sound.

An adaptor lead from Maplin etc will allow you to feed the headphone
socket into an external amp. You'll probably have to set the level from
the headphone socket carefully to avoid overload.

You might also be able to pick up a suitable feed from a SCART socket -
which might be in a better place as regards seeing cables dangling. That
would also likely be a fixed level signal rather than variable like the
headphone one.

If you're going to use the headphone socket you really want to make an
attenuator with some resistors to reduce the level otherwise you're
probably going to get way to much signal to input to an amplifier,
possibly even enough to damage the amplifier it if you accidentally turn
up the volume too much on the TV.


Almost forgot.

When using the headphone socket to feed an amplifier set any bass, treble,
"loudness", or 3D sound settings on the TV to flat or off at least to begin
with. Their effect can often be very different or strange when played though
an amplifier into good speakers spaced properly for the stereo effect.

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Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.