Did I not explain it very well?

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:52:12 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 6th, 2011 at 16:28:07h +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote:

I don't know how cold things need to be for all stuff to be in
liquid or solid form.

Well one estimated final temperature of the universe is from

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/end.html

QUOTE

At this point the cosmic background radiation will have cooled to about 10-13 Kelvin,
and most things will be at about that temperature unless proton decay or some other
such process keeps them warmer.

...

If we make a rough guess at the cosmological constant, the temperature we get is
about 10-30 Kelvin.

UNQUOTE

So 10^-13 kelvins is certainly cold enough for most stuff to be in solid form,
even more so if the temperature dips further to 10^-30 kelvins.

The current measured temperature of the universe is 2.726 kelvins


Fortunately it's warmer than that where we are!

http://www.sciencemag.ORG/content/262/5135/861.short

which is cold enough for most things to be a solid -- freezing point
of helium is 4.22 kelvins.

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In article , J G Miller
wrote:

which is cold enough for most things to be a solid -- freezing point of
helium is 4.22 kelvins.

Isn't that the boiling point?

Slainte,

Jim

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On 06/04/2011 17:52, J G Miller wrote:

At this point the cosmic background radiation will have cooled to about 10-13 Kelvin,
and most things will be at about that temperature unless proton decay or some other
such process keeps them warmer.

snip

I seem to have lost your exponent. 10 to the power -13? not somewhere
between 10 and 13?

As for time stopping - well I'm fairly sure it will have stopped for me
by then.

Andy

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:33:06 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:

On 06/04/2011 17:52, J G Miller wrote:

At this point the cosmic background radiation will have cooled to
about 10-13 Kelvin, and most things will be at about that
temperature unless proton decay or some other such process keeps
them warmer.

I seem to have lost your exponent. 10 to the power -13? not somewhere
between 10 and 13?

Wonder how many people here have newsreaders that can handle superscript?
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On Wednesday, April 6th, 2011 at 20:08:18h +0000, Stephen Hughes asked:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:33:06 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:

On 06/04/2011 17:52, J G Miller wrote:

At this point the cosmic background radiation will have cooled to
about 10-13 Kelvin, and most things will be at about that
temperature unless proton decay or some other such process keeps
them warmer.

I seem to have lost your exponent. 10 to the power -13? not somewhere
between 10 and 13?

Wonder how many people here have newsreaders that can handle
superscript? 10�¹³

The superscript looks fine in Pan with UTF-8 encoding.

My apologies for losing my exponents like that in the original article.

To lose one exponent is unfortunate, to lose two is just plain carelessness.

So in summary, should we be more worried about universal cooling than
global warming?

J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, April 6th, 2011 at 02:58:46h +0100, Johny B Good wrote:

Once the whole universe is at exactly the same temperature
it will become impossible to create this condition.

If everything is at the same temperature, is everything in
a constant steady state?

And if so, has time effectively stopped?
Time often stops in hospital waiting rooms.

Bill

Peter Duncanson wrote:

I think we need a physicist of the right specialization to answer that
question!

Or failing that a convincing bull****ter.

Bill

On 25/03/2011 21:46, Ian Field wrote:
"Dave Plowman wrote in message
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wrote:
My great aunt used to believe that if you left an electrical socket
with nothing plugged in the electricity would escape through the holes
and increase the electricity bill.

Think lots still do by all these dummy plugs you see around...


AFAIK those were originally intended to stop kiddies sticking things in the
holes.


They should have had then when I was about four. I stuck scissors in the
holes. There was a flash and a shock went right up my arm.
Derek

Mark Carver wrote:
On 06/04/2011 01:28, Johny B Good wrote:
The ultimate fate of our universe couldn't get any bleaker.

I can tell; you're one of those; "The bottle is half empty" pessimist
types ?


Well no, he's a 'glass is half full' type, because he says the ultimate
fate of our universe couldn't get any bleaker. That's looking on the
bright side isn't it? He could have said it could get bleaker...

Suppose after the scenario he envisages takes place the atoms gradually
rearrange themselves into another universe identical to this one, and we
have to go through the whole bloody torment that is life all over again.

Bill

J G Miller wrote:

So in summary, should we be more worried about universal cooling than
global warming?

My head gets hot and my feet get cold at the same time.

Bill