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Old March 26th 11, 10:03 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Metspitzer
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Default Does the size of the border change during a movie?

I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.
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Old March 26th 11, 10:35 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Mar 26, 5:03*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. *I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. *The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


What was the source of the video? Some films are cropped top to bottom
after production.
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Old March 26th 11, 11:56 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Mar 26, 7:08*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:35:01 -0700 (PDT), robinlos

wrote:
On Mar 26, 5:03 pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.


--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


What was the source of the video? Some films are cropped top to bottom
after production.


http://www.binsearch.info/?q=Tron.Le...80p.DTS.x264-C....


http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-t...max-sequences/
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Old March 27th 11, 12:08 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Does the size of the border change during a movie?

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:35:01 -0700 (PDT), robinlos
wrote:

On Mar 26, 5:03*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. *I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. *The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


What was the source of the video? Some films are cropped top to bottom
after production.


http://www.binsearch.info/?q=Tron.Le...ge=900&server=
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Old March 27th 11, 05:10 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default Does the size of the border change during a movie?

On Mar 26, 2:03*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. *I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. *The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


It isn't supposed to but it does happen on occasion.


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Old March 27th 11, 07:48 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"G-squared" wrote in message
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On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

The only one I can think of was "The Dark Knight" which was mostly the
2.35:1 frame of the original 35mm film. However there were a few scenes
that were shot on large Imax format at I think 1.66:1. These were presented
at full screen on the BluRay while the rest of the film had the black bars
top and bottom. Maybe there were more Imax type films done. I don't know
about Tron.


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Old March 27th 11, 02:30 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Chas" wrote in message
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The only one I can think of was "The Dark Knight" which was mostly the
2.35:1 frame of the original 35mm film. However there were a few scenes
that were shot on large Imax format at I think 1.66:1. These were
presented at full screen on the BluRay while the rest of the film had the
black bars top and bottom. Maybe there were more Imax type films done. I
don't know about Tron.

Transformers 2 also used IMAX and a shifting AR. Tron doesn't use IMAX and
the director is just trying you to fool you into thinking it does.

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Old March 28th 11, 12:35 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message
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I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


Often, premium movie channels (such as HBO and Cinemax) will show the
opening titles of 2.35:1 movies in their correct aspect ratio with black
bars at the top and bottom. After the credits finish rolling, they expand
the picture to fill the screen, truncating the left and right edges of the
picture.

They might stop this practice if enough people complain.




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Old March 28th 11, 01:52 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"W²" wrote in message
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message
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I was watching "Tron" on my HDTV. I haven't actually measured the
top/bottom border, but I would swear it changed in more than one part
in the movie. The picture filled the screen left/right, but the
top/bottom seemed to change.

--
O'Neil to General Hammond:
For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.


Often, premium movie channels (such as HBO and Cinemax) will show the
opening titles of 2.35:1 movies in their correct aspect ratio with black
bars at the top and bottom. After the credits finish rolling, they expand
the picture to fill the screen, truncating the left and right edges of the
picture.

They might stop this practice if enough people complain.



THANKS!
Often wondered about that!
The director shot it in 2.35 for a reason, no?

--
Regards,
Richard Harison


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Old March 28th 11, 10:41 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"LightByrd" wrote in message
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THANKS!
Often wondered about that!
The director shot it in 2.35 for a reason, no?

Most movies from the past decade are in Super35 so going 1.78 from 2.35 is
done by open matte (you see more) instead of cropping.
Movies are usually only framed for the OAR.
http://www.widescreen.org/widescreen_matte.shtml has some examples of what
can happen.
They usually protect for 1.78 nowadays but the extra dead space can take
away from what your suppose to focus on in a shot.
Red Cliff is a good example of how seeing more take away from the
"epicness". http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1207489

 




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