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Old February 21st 11, 12:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.

Bill
  #2  
Old February 21st 11, 12:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 21/02/2011 11:04, Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.

Bill

Indie production company!

richard
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Old February 21st 11, 12:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Dickie Mint wrote:
On 21/02/2011 11:04, Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


Indie production company!


I'm pretty sure Top Gear is 'in house', or as in house as you can be
these days at the Beeb !

In any case, the Beeb are still ultimately responsible for the tech (and
all other) quality.
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Old February 21st 11, 12:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


I think Top Gear has been using extensive post processing
on images for a while - certainly many shots
use the Lomo effect, or just simple vignetting.

I've also noticed contrast curve manipulation, colour saturation
(both low and high) and localised defocus (not blurring
for privacy, more simulated DOF type stuff).

And the colour saturation on Edwardian Farm was
turned up WAY too high.

BugBear
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Old February 21st 11, 12:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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On 21/02/2011 11:22, Mark Carver wrote:
Dickie Mint wrote:
On 21/02/2011 11:04, Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


Indie production company!


I'm pretty sure Top Gear is 'in house', or as in house as you can be
these days at the Beeb !

In any case, the Beeb are still ultimately responsible for the tech (and
all other) quality.


That's much my beef at the moment. The beeb is not exerting its muscle
to enforce production standards. I recently complained on two occasions
about sound levels and the BBC reply was basically there's not much we
can do as it's been made by an indie. I replied pointing out the
producers guide which all indies making programmes the BBC commission
are required to follow. No reply, of course!

The same thing happened with BBC commissioned programmes which had
blatant product placement in them! And I dread to think how worse
that's going to get on the beeb after 28th Feb! The irony is going to
be that you can get away not only with product placement but with not
having to put up the "P" symbol if you sell to the beeb!

Richard
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Old February 21st 11, 01:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"bugbear" wrote in message
o.uk...
Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


I think Top Gear has been using extensive post processing
on images for a while - certainly many shots
use the Lomo effect, or just simple vignetting.

I've also noticed contrast curve manipulation, colour saturation
(both low and high) and localised defocus (not blurring
for privacy, more simulated DOF type stuff).

And the colour saturation on Edwardian Farm was
turned up WAY too high.

BugBear


Yep this turned up to 11 colour saturation definately seems to be the
current trend for 'modern' TV programs. Certainly on anything sheduled for
Saturday evening viewing. Sigh..


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Old February 21st 11, 02:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian
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In message , bugbear
writes
Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


I think Top Gear has been using extensive post processing
on images for a while - certainly many shots
use the Lomo effect, or just simple vignetting.

I've also noticed contrast curve manipulation, colour saturation
(both low and high) and localised defocus (not blurring
for privacy, more simulated DOF type stuff).

And the colour saturation on Edwardian Farm was
turned up WAY too high.

BugBear


It's happening all the time.

Grainy, blurred, softened, hardened, over bright, over dark.

Some of these are things that decades of R and D have eradicated.

Unfortunately, media gradiots think these are "cool" effects, rather
than ways to make HD pointless.
--
Ian
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Old February 21st 11, 05:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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bugbear wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:
Last night's Top Gear was outrageous in this respect. The snow was
bright blue at one point, then vaguely pink at another. Some shots were
very contrasty, almost as if it was done for effect. During one shot the
gross over-exposure was suddenly corrected.


I think Top Gear has been using extensive post processing
on images for a while - certainly many shots
use the Lomo effect, or just simple vignetting.

I've also noticed contrast curve manipulation, colour saturation
(both low and high) and localised defocus (not blurring
for privacy, more simulated DOF type stuff).

And the colour saturation on Edwardian Farm was
turned up WAY too high.

BugBear

A ten element UHF aerial was visible on a rooftop near the start of
South Riding.

Bill
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Old February 22nd 11, 12:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Max Demian
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I remember the BBC micro though, how was that ever allowed?


That was 'educational'. Part of the Computer Literacy Project.

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Max Demian


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Old February 25th 11, 07:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Albert Ross
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:35:04 +0000, bugbear
wrote:

And the colour saturation on Edwardian Farm was
turned up WAY too high.


OMG I just watched one I'd recorded.

It looked like they'd let a blind man out with Fuji Velvia and a
broken camera

BUT

clearly you missed the Artistic way they reduced the saturation and
made the indoor scenes look almost sepia compared to the appalling
location work
 




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