Poor reception at new address

Andy Wade wrote:
On 19/02/2011 18:46, Count de Monet wrote:

Considering my postcode which transmitter would be favourable?

Enter postcode and house number here and tick the trade box:
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/postcodechecker/

But bear in mind that a single tree or building in the way could make
nonsense of the results.

Bill

"Count de Monet" wrote in message
...
I've just moved home

When I retuned my LG Freeview TV I do not get the full amount of channels
on digital. Most noticeably ITV1 CH4 and CH5 and others are missing. My
antenna is pointing at the East Midlands Transmitter.

A local aerial installer tells me that I need a 'Digital Aerial'


Sort of reminds me of a component supplier started advertising square
speakers as a must for digital audio.

The cowboy builters TV programme is sponsored by:

http://www.myhammer.co.uk/showLandin...CMyHammer+.com

I had a look and there's nothing about aerial riggers - but if enough people
asked.................

tim.... wrote:

I think that we all know that, but like it or not that is the terminology
being used by normal people.
It's shorthand. It's an over-simplification, but what can you do? When
people ring up asking for a digital aerial I just say "Have you tried
digital reception on your existing aerial?" If they have, and it hasn't
worked properly, then they need something doing, either a repair or a
new aerial, so as far as I'm concerned they need a visit and when that
takes place we'll decide just what work needs doing.

Bill

One thing the entire group has overlooked. You retuned the TV but
did you do a find new channels or a complete restart? If the
former then you may find the channels you need in the 800's. Do a
complete restart and see what you get.

Also have you retuned the analogue channels? The channel numbers
being used will give you an idea which station is serving you.

From looking at the aerial, assuming the rods are horizontal,
Waltham will be roughly SE, Belmont will be a little south of NE,
and Sutton Coldfield will be about south west. For analogue
Waltham has channels in the 50-60 area, Belmont is 21-34 range,
and Sutton Coldfield is in the 40's. SC is also in the 40's for
digital but the other stations use out-of-group channels - which
is what most of the reply commenst have been about.

If the aerial rods are vertical then you will be using a relay
transmitter which may or may not have digital yet.

If the rods are vertical and the aerial doesn't look too old then
it has probably been changed already if it was needed. You could
of course call the previous occupant and ask them which station
they used and if they had digital?

Try
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...Calculator.php
enter the info and then scroll down to where it offers to put the
info on a map. That should tell you which station you are using.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

"Woody" wrote in message
...
One thing the entire group has overlooked. You retuned the TV
but did you do a find new channels or a complete restart? If
the former then you may find the channels you need in the
800's. Do a complete restart and see what you get.

Also have you retuned the analogue channels? The channel
numbers being used will give you an idea which station is
serving you.

From looking at the aerial, assuming the rods are horizontal,
Waltham will be roughly SE, Belmont will be a little south of
NE, and Sutton Coldfield will be about south west. For analogue
Waltham has channels in the 50-60 area, Belmont is 21-34 range,
and Sutton Coldfield is in the 40's. SC is also in the 40's for
digital but the other stations use out-of-group channels -
which is what most of the reply commenst have been about.

If the aerial rods are vertical then you will be using a relay
transmitter which may or may not have digital yet.

If the rods are vertical and the aerial doesn't look too old
then it has probably been changed already if it was needed. You
could of course call the previous occupant and ask them which
station they used and if they had digital?

Try
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...Calculator.php
enter the info and then scroll down to where it offers to put
the info on a map. That should tell you which station you are
using.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com





Replying to myself, I meant 'if the rods are horizontal and the
aerial doesn't......'


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Mark Carver wrote:

Waltham is having no less than 5 reshuffles/changes this year
Below are the UHF ch numbers, and power for each mux, at each stage.

BBC-A ITV/4 BBC-B SDN ArqA ArqB
Until Mar 30 2011 49/10 23/8 33/8 26/8 45/5 42/5
From March 30 49/10 23/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From April 13 49/10 31/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From Aug 17 61/50 31/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From Aug 31 61/50 54/50 58/50 29/8 56/5 57/5
From Oct 12 61/50 54/50 58/50 29/25 56/25 57/25

Blimey! I live within Waltham's catchment area, and I didn't know there
were *so* many stages involved in DSO in this region ...

Andy Burns wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

Waltham is having no less than 5 reshuffles/changes this year
Below are the UHF ch numbers, and power for each mux, at each stage.

BBC-A ITV/4 BBC-B SDN ArqA ArqB
Until Mar 30 2011 49/10 23/8 33/8 26/8 45/5 42/5
From March 30 49/10 23/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From April 13 49/10 31/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From Aug 17 61/50 31/8 33/8 29/8 45/5 42/5
From Aug 31 61/50 54/50 58/50 29/8 56/5 57/5
From Oct 12 61/50 54/50 58/50 29/25 56/25 57/25

Blimey! I live within Waltham's catchment area, and I didn't know there
were *so* many stages involved in DSO in this region ...


You are aware I assume that Stage 7 of Waltham DSO involves a plague of
frogs, and during Stage 9 the first born of both men and animals will be
struck down?
The best advice for anyone living in the Diocese of Waltham in the Wold
is to move house before DSO.

Bill

In message on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:46:41 +0000
Count de Monet wrote:

Sorry for being so vague. I have tried to answer some questions below.

Their is no mast head amplifier

My description of the transmitter (East Midlands) came from the TV
signal analysis page on my LG TV's set-up menu

The elements on the aerial are horizontal

My postcode starts with DE5 (Ripley Derbyshire) On my road the rooftop
aerials on the 25 or so houses seem to be pointing in three different
directions

Considering my postcode which transmitter would be favourable?


Using the link that Woody posted:

http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...Calculator.php

and putting in your partial PostCode suggests Waltham.

Try it yourself but put in the full PostCode and select OS map.

Drag the map around to keep your end in the middle as you zoom in. At maximum zoom, every
individual building will be visible. Drag the marker to your house and compare the
direction of the line with your aerial.

By choosing diferent transmitters from the list of suggestions and repeating the
exercise, you will be able to determine the three transmitters in use along your road.
Remember, as Bill has pointed out, that local obstructions are important and may be the
reason why adjacent houses use different transmitters. Your eyes are better for locating
these than the map!

--

Terry

On 19/02/2011 18:46, Count de Monet wrote:


I will post a picture of my aerial tomorrow




Martyn


http://usera.ImageCave.com/Barneyrubble/Aerial.jpg

The above is my current aerial pointing at the Waltham transmitter.

According to this:

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/postcodechecker/

Sutton Coldfield is the best transmitter for my postcode. Would my
current aerial be OK for SC or do I need a wide band aerial for good
digital reception?

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:17 -0000, "Graham." wrote:


[snip]

Oh, and there is no such thing as a digital aerial.

Of course there is. I've got one. Mine has the optional HD upgrade
which lets me get the HD channels as well :-)