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"John Legon" wrote in message o.uk...
Bill Wright wrote:
Rick wrote:


That's the actual number I counted cycling through on the buttons, that's not to say however that some of the frequencies were
duplicated, although quite a number of the channels did look different, perhaps I should make a note of the dogs.
It would be interesting to dig out the remote and do a rescan, also because it's a very long time ago, I can't remember if it's
possible to do a complete scan these receivers or whether the frequencies of known channels have to be punched in manually.

As far as I know there are no analogue channels at 28E. Could it be that you found 33 at 19E?

Lyngsat lists approx. 35 analogue channels at 19E but none at 28E.

Gosh, one programme per transponder. Has anyone told the accountants
they might be missing a trick here? ;-)

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Graham.

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In message on Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:36:30 -0000
ian field wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Java Jive wrote:

First a note that might seem like pedantry
You know what happens to pedants...

It is the tuner that determines which type of signal is
decoded and displayed on the TV.
Surely it's what follows the tuner section that determines what type of
signal is received (although of course the tuner might be optimised
bandwidth-wise).


I'd go with the descriptions that an analogue tuner is tuned by an analogue
voltage derived from a 33V stabilizer and a digital tuner is controlled by
some kind of digital data bus - such as I2C.

Lots of 'analogue' tuners were controlled by I2C and similar data busses but the actual
tuning voltage was the same stabilised 33V.

--

Terry

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Rick wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Rick wrote:

Out of curiosity I dug out an old Pace analogue receiver from the loft
(there was a repair label on it dated 1998) I couldn't find the remote
but connected it in place of my Technomate digital HD receiver.
Amazingly it still worked (as this particular model was notorious for
power supply failures, due to capacitors) on cycling through, using the
receiver's channel buttons, I counted 33 analogue channels and was
surprised at how good the picture quality was, that was with an LNB set
to Astra at 28.2,

Are you absolutely sure you found 33 analogue channels on 28E?


That's the actual number I counted cycling through on the buttons, that's
not to say however that some of the frequencies were duplicated, although
quite a number of the channels did look different, perhaps I should make
a note of the dogs.
It would be interesting to dig out the remote and do a rescan, also
because it's a very long time ago, I can't remember if it's possible to
do a complete scan these receivers or whether the frequencies of known
channels have to be punched in manually.

As far as I know there are no analogue channels at 28E. Could it be that
you found 33 at 19E?



Correct, when I disconnected the Technomate receiver the DiSEqC was left set
to the default Astra 28.2 position, when I connected the Pace receiver it
must have altered it to the Astra 19.2 position, to prove it I left the
Technomate plugged in and connected the Pace via the loop through, that way
I was able to determine (via the Technomate menu) what satellite the Pace
was actually connected to, and you're right, there is absolutely nowt on
Hotbird or 28.2° E, although I'm still pretty amazed at the number of
analogue channels that are still available, which must beg the question of
why?

In message on Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:53:17 -0000
Graham. wrote:

Some Pace Sky boxes use ZIF tuners (Zero IF) which I suppose is a modern
implementation of TRF technology.

It has a name, which escapes me at the moment (Synchrodyne?) - and it isn't new!

Sinclair used the technique in his first Microvision - the one based on a conventional
2" CRT that never got into production. I remember seeing it displayed at Earls Court and
couldn't get my head around how you could have an IF strip without coils. When it was
explained to me that it was a superhet with the local oscillator at signal frequency,
thus producing an IF at 0Hz, I started to doubt my own sanity ...!

In fact, like many of Sinclair's designs, it wasn't his idea at all - he was just very
good at getting these things to work. The original idea was propsed in the thirties,
IIRC.

Ah - a quick Google for Synchrodyne suggests that the first idea, called a Homodyne,
dates back to 1924 and the Synchrodyne to 1947 - neither of which is in the thirties!

http://www.thevalvepage.com/radtech/synchro/synchro.htm

--

Terry

In article ,
Terry Casey wrote:

In fact, like many of Sinclair's designs, it wasn't his idea at all -
he was just very good at getting these things to work.

No, he wasn't very good at that eiither.

One thing he was quite good at was getting the taxpayer to subsidise
his dodgy projects, all the while denouncing socialism.

-- Richard

Graham. wrote:
"John Legon" wrote in message o.uk...
Bill Wright wrote:
Rick wrote:
That's the actual number I counted cycling through on the buttons, that's not to say however that some of the frequencies were
duplicated, although quite a number of the channels did look different, perhaps I should make a note of the dogs.
It would be interesting to dig out the remote and do a rescan, also because it's a very long time ago, I can't remember if it's
possible to do a complete scan these receivers or whether the frequencies of known channels have to be punched in manually.
As far as I know there are no analogue channels at 28E. Could it be that you found 33 at 19E?
Lyngsat lists approx. 35 analogue channels at 19E but none at 28E.

Gosh, one programme per transponder.

Not necessarily. Sometimes there were two analogue channels on one
transponder.

Bill

Apart from the free-to-air French channels mentioned
at 5W, there's a wider selection at 19.2E. Only some
are FTA, but it's not hard to get the full TNTSat
package from there.

Don't you need a decoder card to receive that?..
--
Tony Sayer

"Rick" wrote in message ...




Correct, when I disconnected the Technomate receiver the DiSEqC was left set
to the default Astra 28.2 position, when I connected the Pace receiver it
must have altered it to the Astra 19.2 position, to prove it I left the
Technomate plugged in and connected the Pace via the loop through, that way
I was able to determine (via the Technomate menu) what satellite the Pace
was actually connected to, and you're right, there is absolutely nowt on
Hotbird or 28.2° E, although I'm still pretty amazed at the number of
analogue channels that are still available, which must beg the question of
why?

because they still have viewers - in germany FTA analogue was / maybe still
is a big thing - enough channels don't want to lose all those viewers.



-- Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

The dog from that film you saw schrieb:

because they still have viewers - in germany FTA analogue was / maybe
still is a big thing - enough channels don't want to lose all those
viewers.

All analog sat TV channels in Germany will close end of April 2012...

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:08:07 +0000, Jim wrote:
On 10/02/2011 11:29, Gary wrote:
Hi Chaps.

Is there much on in English or French on other
satellites that I could receive with a original
analogue sky dish.

It is on the wall so i might as well point it at
something or take it down.
I have a free sat HD TV and it seems a shame not to
get all that is available.

I have tried looking at listings but i wonder how
accurate they are. so is there much and where is it.

Thanks

Gary

In truth, there's not much regular programming
available in English on other satellites except for a
variety of News stations (varying from straight to
propaganda), plus a sprinkling of religious channels.
Occasionally, you will find a foreign-language
station showing something with an English soundtrack.
There's a Ukrainian station aimed at English
learners that shows some mainstream programming or films.

Apart from the free-to-air French channels mentioned
at 5W, there's a wider selection at 19.2E. Only some
are FTA, but it's not hard to get the full TNTSat
package from there.

Yes, that's my experience too. I had a spare dish for a
while and tried pointing it at 13E 16E 19E. Although
there were thousands and thousands of channels, there
was nothing much in english on any of them.
Occasionally there was a film with an english audio
channel that you could select, but otherwise: nowt.
After a couple of weeks of "surfing" we gave the dish
away.

(In its way, that was a good summary of satellite TV
in general - loads of channels: bugger all worth watching)

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