Virgin Media Box: Class Act

"Terry Casey" wrote in message
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says...

Yes, the idea that copper thieves forced the doors was a daft
idea. My point
was to correct the comment that VM's street distribution
cabinets contain
fibre-optic cables.


Whilst fibre is not found in cabinets which handle subscriber
distribution, there is an
exception.

Magnavox used to do a Trunk amplifier with an integral fibre
receiver, known as Fibre-in-
the-lid, for obvious reasons.

Examples I've seen, in former NYNEX areas, have had subscriber
distribution in the same
cabinet.

--

Terry




Erm, I am confused. Maybe not in your area but here VM (formerly
NTL, formerly Bell Cablemedia (I think)) have fibre feed to the
street cab and a paralleled pair co-ax/four-pair to the house.
The co-ax carries TV and broadband, the pair carries telephone.

Even BT do exactly that now - or they did as of this morning when
an Openreach man fitted a new line at a radio site for me. BTO
man advised that as there was 40Mb to the cab and the cable was
only about 300m we should possibly get as much as 20Mb if we
wanted it.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Graham. wrote:

http://www.superstock.com/stock-phot...es/1566-272977

But the Rediffusion did. Big time!

Does anyone remember the TV ads for "The Rediffusion Wire" with the animated bird
"Rediffusion Reggie"?

We got the job of removing a lot of old Rediffusion overhead cables
because they were pulling the chimneys down (they used to go
chimney-chimney to get over main roads).

Bill

Woody wrote:

Erm, I am confused. Maybe not in your area but here VM (formerly
NTL, formerly Bell Cablemedia (I think)) have fibre feed to the
street cab and a paralleled pair co-ax/four-pair to the house.
The co-ax carries TV and broadband, the pair carries telephone.

Even BT do exactly that now - or they did as of this morning when
an Openreach man fitted a new line at a radio site for me. BTO
man advised that as there was 40Mb to the cab and the cable was
only about 300m we should possibly get as much as 20Mb if we
wanted it.

BT FTTC-VDSL ?

I get 34Mb/s sync 1km 'as the crow flies' from the cab. At 300m, unless the
cable really is damp string, you should max out at 40 Mb/s sync, actual
throughput won't exceed 37 Mb/s because of overheads. Congestion, contention,
and bottle necks upstream will reduce that further at times. Nevertheless,
it's very nice.



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Mark
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...
Bill Wright wrote:


You've made it worse by putting the whole tonal range into the middle. The blacks are 46/256 above black and the whites are
188/256 above black. Better to use the full tonal range and merely tweak the gamma to increase midrange contrast.

Thanks for your concern chaps, the enhancements from Rick and Peter are very good, but just as you can't beat having more signal
in the first place, rather than trying to boost it, I will take a new shot tomorrow morning, with the fine example of
telecommunication engineering excellence, glowing in early morning Hampshire sunlight.


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Mark
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www.paras.org.uk

The gloom could be considered a metaphor for the state of British engineering standards.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Woody wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Yes, the idea that copper thieves forced the doors was a daft
idea. My point
was to correct the comment that VM's street distribution
cabinets contain
fibre-optic cables.

Whilst fibre is not found in cabinets which handle subscriber
distribution, there is an
exception.

Magnavox used to do a Trunk amplifier with an integral fibre
receiver, known as Fibre-in-
the-lid, for obvious reasons.

Examples I've seen, in former NYNEX areas, have had subscriber
distribution in the same
cabinet.

--

Terry




Erm, I am confused. Maybe not in your area but here VM (formerly
NTL, formerly Bell Cablemedia (I think)) have fibre feed to the
street cab and a paralleled pair co-ax/four-pair to the house.
The co-ax carries TV and broadband, the pair carries telephone.


My understanding certainly was that there was fibre to the cabinet, and
coax and/or UTP from there to the premises, depending.

Cambridge cable presentation (now Virgin via NTL) IIRC is /was pure
coax. With phones demuxed of that somehow. I think.


Even BT do exactly that now - or they did as of this morning when
an Openreach man fitted a new line at a radio site for me. BTO
man advised that as there was 40Mb to the cab and the cable was
only about 300m we should possibly get as much as 20Mb if we
wanted it.


40Mbps to the cab is crap. Surely the fibre handles more?

"Graham." wrote in message
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"George Weston" wrote in message
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On 08/02/2011 19:16, Terry Casey wrote:
In ,
says...


The original system where I live was installed quite a few years ago by
the
aforementioned United Artists (now Virgin) an American Company, I
wonder if
they use same style cabinets in the U.S. and if so, the reason that
they
aren't designed to be bomb proof is simply because they don't have the
the
same proliferation of moronic chavs who constantly vandalise them in
the
same way as they do here in the UK?


In the States, it's mostly out of reach because they use overhead
distribution - like BT
still do for telephones in some places.

Hence the underground (in the UK) subscriber distribution feed is know
as a 'drop' cable.

Cable companies aren't allowed to use overhead distribution in the UK
but BT still can
and do ...

http://www.superstock.com/stock-phot...es/1566-272977

But the Rediffusion did. Big time!


I'd like to think that it was never anywhere near as bad as that image that
George posted, it looks more like what one would expect to find on the
Indian subcontinent rather than the U.S.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/cables1.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/cables2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/cables3.jpg



Does anyone remember the TV ads for "The Rediffusion Wire" with the
animated bird
"Rediffusion Reggie"?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Terry Casey" wrote in message
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Cable companies aren't allowed to use overhead distribution in the UK but
BT still can
and do ...

Virgin have been trialing it recently:
http://www.silicon.com/technology/ne...work-39745587/

Paul

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Woody wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Yes, the idea that copper thieves forced the doors was a daft idea. My
point
was to correct the comment that VM's street distribution cabinets
contain
fibre-optic cables.

Whilst fibre is not found in cabinets which handle subscriber
distribution, there is an
exception.

Magnavox used to do a Trunk amplifier with an integral fibre receiver,
known as Fibre-in-
the-lid, for obvious reasons.

Examples I've seen, in former NYNEX areas, have had subscriber
distribution in the same
cabinet.

--

Terry




Erm, I am confused. Maybe not in your area but here VM (formerly NTL,
formerly Bell Cablemedia (I think)) have fibre feed to the street cab and
a paralleled pair co-ax/four-pair to the house. The co-ax carries TV and
broadband, the pair carries telephone.


My understanding certainly was that there was fibre to the cabinet, and
coax and/or UTP from there to the premises, depending.

Cambridge cable presentation (now Virgin via NTL) IIRC is /was pure coax.
With phones demuxed of that somehow. I think.


Even BT do exactly that now - or they did as of this morning when an
Openreach man fitted a new line at a radio site for me. BTO man advised
that as there was 40Mb to the cab and the cable was only about 300m we
should possibly get as much as 20Mb if we wanted it.


40Mbps to the cab is crap. Surely the fibre handles more?

It's being limited, at the moment. Exactly the same as DSL was when it was
first rolled out, or is that fell out, across the country.

"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


The original system where I live was installed quite a few years ago by
the
aforementioned United Artists (now Virgin) an American Company, I wonder
if
they use same style cabinets in the U.S. and if so, the reason that they
aren't designed to be bomb proof is simply because they don't have the
the
same proliferation of moronic chavs who constantly vandalise them in the
same way as they do here in the UK?


In the States, it's mostly out of reach because they use overhead
distribution - like BT
still do for telephones in some places.

Hence the underground (in the UK) subscriber distribution feed is know as
a 'drop' cable.

Cable companies aren't allowed to use overhead distribution in the UK but
BT still can
and do ...


Cough

Come to some of the streets in the east of Nottingham and tell me those
aren't Virgin cables and poles. Even the users aren't particularly happy
about it but it does happen.

"Paulg0" wrote in message
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
Cable companies aren't allowed to use overhead distribution in the UK but
BT still can
and do ...

Virgin have been trialing it recently:
http://www.silicon.com/technology/ne...work-39745587/

Paul

Piloting it?????

It's already being done and has been for at least 10 years