Black and white TV's (a.k.a monochrome TV's and digital switchover

Mike Henry wrote:

That wasn't my point - I'm saying it will be rather difficult to trick
her into thinking it's a black and white TV! She may not twig that
there's no such thing as a flat-panel black and white TV, but surely the
sight of colour on the screen will give it away?

As you may have noticed from an earlier posting, my *real* response to
this situation - which I promise I would use with my own mother - is
"Tough ****, deal with it."

Of course, I wouldn't use that language, but it absolutely does reflect
the sentiment I'd express.

Why should old people get special consideration in matters like this
just because they're old? This is the height of indulgence.

SteveT

"Gary" wrote in message news
On 06/02/2011 12:40, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:40:41 GMT, Steve
wrote:

Alan Whit wrote:

Yes, (aged 73).
Perfect. Buy her a cheap Freeview TV, turn the colour right down until
the picture is monochrome.

Job done.

SteveT

At age 73 she still needs to pay for a licence. Following your
suggestion she would surely need to get a colour licence because a
Freeview TV is capable of displaying colour.



When I worked for a TV rental Company we had a few old people that insisted they did not want colour so we supplied them with
Colour TVs with the colour decoder modded. (Large screen BW had been withdrawn .) ( I believe we removed the crystal). We then
put a sticker on the back listing what and why we had done it.

This was deemed OK for the purpose of the BW licence. as the TV could not receive and show a colour picture.

We could have just set the colour control to zero by wiring it, but that was a more difficult thing to do on the sets we used.

I don't remember ever doing that, but what we did do on a regular basis was remove
the tuner so the set became just a monitor.
Particularly remember doing this for Moss Bros / Miss Selfridge / Dotty Perkins etc. etc. retail group for in-store video
promotions.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Brian Gaff wrote:

Brian back the Minstrel show folks!
Brian
Bring back that excellent show 'It ain't half hot mum!' Political
correctness has caused the BBC to leave it in the vault, which is a
terrible waste of licence payers' money.

Bill

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright writes:
Stephen wrote:

My mother has a black and white TV. obviously it only has a analogue
Tuner, no scart or even CVBS inputs.
She is a colour refusenik and will not switch to a colour TV period.
DSO is happening in March in her area.
Are you absolutely sure you aren't pulling our legs?

Bill

You don't have an aged parent of your own, do you?

Oh yes I do. I've been wondering for some time why the Sony in the
kitchen keeps switching to analogue. It turns out that the BBC1 button
is next to the analogue/digital button. At present he is in that awkward
period between the cataract op and the new glasses, so the larger
subtitles on analogue suit him. He regards his fumbling as a great
discovery! "I get bigger subtitles like that!"

Here he is, as he was a few years ago:
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/whoweare/index.shtml

He's 92 now.

Bill

Brian Gaff wrote:

Brian back the Minstrel show folks!
Brian
Bring back that excellent show 'It ain't half hot mum!' Political
correctness has caused the BBC to leave it in the vault, which is a
terrible waste of licence payers' money.

Bill

Steve Thackery wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:

That wasn't my point - I'm saying it will be rather difficult to trick
her into thinking it's a black and white TV! She may not twig that
there's no such thing as a flat-panel black and white TV, but surely
the sight of colour on the screen will give it away?

As you may have noticed from an earlier posting, my *real* response to
this situation - which I promise I would use with my own mother - is
"Tough ****, deal with it."

Of course, I wouldn't use that language, but it absolutely does reflect
the sentiment I'd express.

Why should old people get special consideration in matters like this
just because they're old? This is the height of indulgence.

SteveT

It isn't special consideration. It's giving the customer what they want.
If there was a group of people in their thirties who wanted monochrome
TV sets (for some wacky reason, probably religious) they would be
catered for by the trade.

Bill

Mike Henry wrote:
In , Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike Henry
writes
In , Steve Thackery
wrote:

Alan Whit wrote:

Yes, (aged 73).
Perfect. Buy her a cheap Freeview TV, turn the colour right down until
the picture is monochrome.

Job done.
On many TVs, all of the onscreen displays will still be in full colour
though! Job not quite done!
But you shouldn't need a colour TV licence to watch coloured on-screen
displays!

That wasn't my point - I'm saying it will be rather difficult to trick her
into thinking it's a black and white TV! She may not twig that there's no
such thing as a flat-panel black and white TV, but surely the sight of
colour on the screen will give it away?

Just say, if questioned, "Yes well even black and white TV sets have a
coloured menu screen. You see they invented menu screens after they
stopped making black and white TV sets."

Bull**** baffles brains.

Mind you if it were me I'd leave the set with just a little bit of
colour on it, and if there were protests say "It's your imagination."
Then turn it up a bit each week.

Bill

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright writes:
Stephen wrote:

My mother has a black and white TV. obviously it only has a analogue
Tuner, no scart or even CVBS inputs.
She is a colour refusenik and will not switch to a colour TV period.
DSO is happening in March in her area.
Are you absolutely sure you aren't pulling our legs?

Bill

You don't have an aged parent of your own, do you?

Oh yes I do. I've been wondering for some time why the Sony in the
kitchen keeps switching to analogue. It turns out that the BBC1 button
is next to the analogue/digital button. At present he is in that awkward
period between the cataract op and the new glasses, so the larger
subtitles on analogue suit him. He regards his fumbling as a great
discovery! "I get bigger subtitles like that!"

Here he is, as he was a few years ago:
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/whoweare/index.shtml

He's 92 now.

Bill

Norman Wells wrote:
Stephen wrote:
Hi all,

My mother has a black and white TV. obviously it only has a analogue
Tuner, no scart or even CVBS inputs.

She is a colour refusenik and will not switch to a colour TV period.
DSO is happening in March in her area.

I have been looking into some freeview boxes with integrated
modulators.

This then leads to two or possibly three questions questions:

(a) whats going to happen to the B&W TV licence after DSO completes
in the UK?

(b) assuming I found a freeview box with a modulator onboard, if I
was to connect one of these to her B&W TV set, would she still be
legal with a B&W TV licence or would she be obliged to buy a colour
licence as technically speaking the freeview box is capable of
recieving colour TV even though the B&W set clearly isnt and she
would continue to watch in black and white?

(c) if the freeview box means that she needs a colour licence, can I
do something to the freeview box to render it incapable of recieving
colour, and only outputts B&W, if this would then allow her to
continue having a B&W TV licence legally??

Surprisingly enough, when the B&W TV set breaks, some kind soul
always seems to find one in their loft and gives it to my
mother...... The remote control will be an interesting change for her
given she is
so used to twiddling the tuner dial......

Can I suggest euthanasia?


No need to go that far!

Just poke her eyes out, and tell her the replacement TV is B&W

I know it's nasty, but it's only a little lie.

Steve Terry
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Bill Wright wrote:
Steve Thackery wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:

That wasn't my point - I'm saying it will be rather difficult to
trick her into thinking it's a black and white TV! She may not twig
that there's no such thing as a flat-panel black and white TV, but
surely the sight of colour on the screen will give it away?

As you may have noticed from an earlier posting, my *real* response
to this situation - which I promise I would use with my own mother -
is "Tough ****, deal with it."

Of course, I wouldn't use that language, but it absolutely does
reflect the sentiment I'd express.

Why should old people get special consideration in matters like this
just because they're old? This is the height of indulgence.
SteveT

It isn't special consideration. It's giving the customer what they
want. If there was a group of people in their thirties who wanted
monochrome TV sets (for some wacky reason, probably religious) they
would be catered for by the trade.
Bill

Hey you've got something there

"The church of the latter day Black and White TV"

Sign up a few hundred loonies, (sorry faithful), get Tax charity status,
apply for EU subsidies, register my address as a monastery to avoid council
tax.

Nice.

Steve Terry
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