Tivo Dual Tuner

"Peter Pan" writes:
"Doug McIntyre" wrote in message
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"Peter Pan" writes:
"bilb2765" wrote in message
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Is there a market for these anymore?

My cable company now transmits all digital. And the dual tuner is only a
single tuner.

It is in good shape, and even have the original box.

Just curious. I see them on eBay, but not sure if they move.

depends on your cable company.. here in the baltimore/dc area comcast puts
all chanels under 100 as analog...


For now..

Comcast is on a major nation-wide push to go all digital. Only
channels 2-21 will remain analog, and you'll need a cable box for
anything else past that once they decide to do your market.



odd (gulp), i am right now, trying the remote.. yup up to 99 work... whew
(Was afraid they whacked it on jan 1st)

oh well, at least its working today... and i have a comcast hd dvr/cable box
and use vcr out from it to a tivo (via video cables).... get hd/dvr/on
demand etc functions and can still use the tivo....


Oh, they'll let you know ahead of time with many mailings and sometimes calls.

This is a many-year thing. The earliest markets to convert started
well over a year ago. Minneapolis just completed in November.

Doug McIntyre wrote:
"Peter Pan" writes:
"bilb2765" wrote:

Is there a market for these anymore?

My cable company now transmits all digital. And the dual tuner is only a
single tuner.

It is in good shape, and even have the original box.

Just curious. I see them on eBay, but not sure if they move.

depends on your cable company.. here in the baltimore/dc area comcast puts
all chanels under 100 as analog...

For now..

Comcast is on a major nation-wide push to go all digital. Only
channels 2-21 will remain analog, and you'll need a cable box for
anything else past that once they decide to do your market.

The most recent note Comcast sent me was that all remaining analog
channels would be yanked in the next few days. We're not even keeping the
lower numbered channels.

"Doug McIntyre" wrote in message
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"Peter Pan" writes:
"Doug McIntyre" wrote in message
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"Peter Pan" writes:
"bilb2765" wrote in message
...
Is there a market for these anymore?

My cable company now transmits all digital. And the dual tuner is only
a
single tuner.

It is in good shape, and even have the original box.

Just curious. I see them on eBay, but not sure if they move.

well at any rate, the dt has dual ANALOG RF tuners, that convdert rf to
video, if you want to use it as a dvr without the tuner/rf part, you can use
it as a single video in dvr (not tuner)

long article (too long to bother pasting here)
Ask the Editors: Analog TiVo for digital cable

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10076511-1.html

off the shelf/simple no, but if you are into putzing, very simple (got three
for $50 off ebay, but did have to putz with making em work in a limited way)
point is it may be sellable on ebay, but won't go for much...

Just curious. I see them on eBay, but not sure if they move.

well at any rate, the dt has dual ANALOG RF tuners, that convdert rf to
video, if you want to use it as a dvr without the tuner/rf part, you can use
it as a single video in dvr (not tuner)

long article (too long to bother pasting here)
Ask the Editors: Analog TiVo for digital cable

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10076511-1.html

off the shelf/simple no, but if you are into putzing, very simple (got three
for $50 off ebay, but did have to putz with making em work in a limited way)
point is it may be sellable on ebay, but won't go for much...

My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.
I have a S2 Single tuner, and it does work with an antenna.

bilb2765 writes:
My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.
I have a S2 Single tuner, and it does work with an antenna.

Thats right, you won't be able to use an antenna with it (even if you
hacked it).

You can only use the video in input on the dual tuner models now with
a cable box, or if your cable still offers analog signals, utilize the
analog antenna input as well.

But you know, at some point, spending $70 on the current model TiVo
box that does work with over-the-air signals (two tuners as well, and
cable cards) is going to be easier than concocting whatever scheme
trying to utilize old hardware.

I'm all for trying to save and utilize old hardware. But the TiVo S1
here finally served its last purpose and is on the junk heap to be
hauled to the electronics recycling place...

bilb2765 wrote:

Just curious. I see them on eBay, but not sure if they move.


well at any rate, the dt has dual ANALOG RF tuners, that convdert rf to
video, if you want to use it as a dvr without the tuner/rf part, you
can use
it as a single video in dvr (not tuner)

long article (too long to bother pasting here)
Ask the Editors: Analog TiVo for digital cable

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10076511-1.html

off the shelf/simple no, but if you are into putzing, very simple (got
three
for $50 off ebay, but did have to putz with making em work in a
limited way)
point is it may be sellable on ebay, but won't go for much...

My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.
I have a S2 Single tuner, and it does work with an antenna.

It should have no problem accepting an antenna signal with an OTA
converter box.

If someone created an OTA to Cable protocol converter (one that could
input OTA signals, acquired with an ATSC tuner, and then convert those
signals so they'd be acceptable to the QAM tuner) then you could use
both inputs. Never happen.

- Character

bilb2765 wrote:

My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.

Weren't there any digital converter boxes that TiVo could change the channel?
The problem may have been the need to map channel numbers that TiVo could
send to subchannel numbers (which are already mapped), but you'd think one
of the converter boxes out there could use a user-specified channel map.

At least one tuner would be usable.

Character wrote:

If someone created an OTA to Cable protocol converter (one that could
input OTA signals, acquired with an ATSC tuner, and then convert those
signals so they'd be acceptable to the QAM tuner) then you could use
both inputs. Never happen.

Dude! The two tuning methods are so similar that I don't believe there were
tuners manufactured that could do one but not the other. It's a matter of
translating frequencies and subchannels to three-digit channel positions
that a TiVo viewer can input with the remote that lacks a way to specify
the subchannel.

That's software, not hardware, so TiVo should be readily hackable on this
point. No conversion is necessary!

Also, the ATSC appliance is a tuner, period. There's no reason to output
a tuned signal for another digital tuner's input. It should be connected
directly to the monitor and speakers, not another tuner.

"Adam H. Kerman" writes:
bilb2765 wrote:
My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.

Weren't there any digital converter boxes that TiVo could change the channel?
The problem may have been the need to map channel numbers that TiVo could
send to subchannel numbers (which are already mapped), but you'd think one
of the converter boxes out there could use a user-specified channel map.

No, TiVo elected not to redo all the old software to add an unknown
quantity of OTA converter boxes, each with different IR command signals.
They did some cable boxes (not all!)

Doug McIntyre wrote:
"Adam H. Kerman" writes:
bilb2765 wrote:

My Dual Tuner will not attach to an antenna. Maybe if hacked, but I just
need to do something with it.

Weren't there any digital converter boxes that TiVo could change the channel?
The problem may have been the need to map channel numbers that TiVo could
send to subchannel numbers (which are already mapped), but you'd think one
of the converter boxes out there could use a user-specified channel map.

No, TiVo elected not to redo all the old software to add an unknown
quantity of OTA converter boxes, each with different IR command signals.
They did some cable boxes (not all!)

TiVo could have elected to redo the old software to match the IR commands
of a known quantity of converter boxes, then offered its recommendations
to TiVo subscribers on the Web site, which is where viewers find lists
of boxes that TiVo can control.

Nobody expected TiVo to work with all converter boxes, but then, no one
expected TiVo to work with none whatsoever.