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Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?



 
 
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  #31  
Old January 4th 11, 08:12 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
tony sayer
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?

In article .com, Mike
Brown scribeth thus
On 04/01/2011 17:24, Jerry wrote:

Oh right, so the idea of a music concert is to watch people,
sorry for thinking that the music is the most important part of
the proceedings, and you have the audacity to call me a
****wit...


I didn't say that the music wasn't important, it is. But the programme
also included many interesting and intricate visual elements including
the work of the conductor, the building's architecture and decor, and by
no means least, the dancing.

But I assume you're a grown-up and don' really need me to waste my time
telling you why they put musical concerts on tv.

This thread is about why the programme was not available in HD in the
UK. There's a clue in the subject line. If you're not interested, kindly
keep quiet.


Course other countries can do this, carry a classical music concert in
HD vision and deem it worthy of broadcast .. pity the BBC cannot...
--
Tony Sayer

  #32  
Old January 4th 11, 08:26 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Brown[_2_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?

On 04/01/2011 19:12, tony sayer wrote:

Course other countries can do this, carry a classical music concert in
HD vision and deem it worthy of broadcast .. pity the BBC cannot...


In fairness the BBC can and (usually) do. They just failed to in this
case, which is why I think it was either oversight or they tied
themselves up in their own bureaucracy.

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mb
  #33  
Old January 4th 11, 08:28 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?

Jerry wrote:

How about answering my factually correct statement that a MUSIC
concert doesn't need HD vision, or is that to difficult for your
brain cell to grasp?


It isn't factually correct. It it was, there would be no point in having
any music programmes on television. Part of the pleasure of attending a
concert is watching the players, and the aitcher the dee the better,
especially when there's a big gang of them as in the present instance.

Bill
  #34  
Old January 4th 11, 08:29 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_2_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?

Jerry wrote:

Which suggest that BBCHD are not allowed to broadcast outside
those times (for what ever reason), thus the only place the BBC
could have screened the content in question was on BBC1HD, not
only would that cause other more worthy content to be dropped but
would have split the channel away from it's 'parent'.


Your basic premise is wrong, and the speculation you build on it is
total ********.

Bill
  #35  
Old January 4th 11, 09:55 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
: Jerry wrote:
:
: How about answering my factually correct statement that a
MUSIC
: concert doesn't need HD vision, or is that to difficult for
your
: brain cell to grasp?
:
: But, as pointed out, the NYDC is so much more than a straight
forward music
: concert. I assume you've actually seen the broadcast over the
years ?
:

Personally I don't give a toss for the eye candy, in fact as I
said, I (was so board with the visual presentation I) switched
back to listening to it on radio during the second half.

I suppose what I'm saying is, there are far worse/important
things the BBC does or doesn't do than not broadcasting this
concert in HD, for example the bias shown in their political and
economics reporting during the last few days on the BBC News
Channel.
--
Regards, Jerry.


  #36  
Old January 4th 11, 09:56 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Andy Champ[_2_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?

On 04/01/2011 17:40, Rob wrote:

I should perhaps point out that this broadcast contains a number of
ballet sequences. Looking to see if the lady dancers are wearing
underwear (which one famously forgot to do in 2003) is greatly helped
by HD.


You've been watching it every year since just to see? And some of the
dancers were... errr... not of mature years shall we say.

Still if it _really_ bothers you

http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Years-Da.../dp/B002XVZ1S0

2003 not available

Andy
  #37  
Old January 4th 11, 10:03 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Jerry[_4_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
: Jerry wrote:
:
: How about answering my factually correct statement that a
MUSIC
: concert doesn't need HD vision, or is that to difficult for
your
: brain cell to grasp?
:
: It isn't factually correct. It it was, there would be no point
in having
: any music programmes on television.

Arse about face, if you are correct there would be no music CDs,
only DVDs containing a video of the said performance, what does
it matter what the building or orchestra/band looks like...

Perhaps this issue has more to do with the inability of so many
people to form their own image (imagination) anymore, they now
seemingly need to be spoon feed the visual content, how many
choose a radio play over a television programme anymore?
--
Regards, Jerry.



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Old January 4th 11, 10:06 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Jerry[_4_]
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"Rob" wrote in message
...

snip
: I should perhaps point out that this broadcast contains a
number of
: ballet sequences. Looking to see if the lady dancers are
wearing
: underwear (which one famously forgot to do in 2003) is greatly
helped
: by HD.

You (very) sad, and/or frustrated, perv!
--
Regards, Jerry.


  #39  
Old January 4th 11, 10:12 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Jerry[_4_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?


"Mike Brown" wrote in message
ster.com...

snip:
: The more I hear and think about this, the more it seems like an
: oversight somewhere. It would be nice to think that the BBC
will have
: noted viewers' reactions to this and that they'll make sure
they find a
: way of accomodating the programme in HD next year.

People were making the same complaints this time last year, so
it's very unlikely to be a simple oversight, either the BBC are
being bloody minded (and quite right too g) or there are
technical issues that prevent then rebroadcasting any HD feed.
--
Regards, Jerry.


  #40  
Old January 4th 11, 10:17 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Jerry[_4_]
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Default Vienna New Year's Day Concert - not in HD on the BBC?!?!?


"Brian Mc" wrote in message
...
: In uk.tech.digital-tv Jerry
wrote:
:: : BBCHD was on its Preview Loop when this was broadcast - thus
:: there was
:: : HD bandwidth going spare!
:
:: Which suggest that BBCHD are not allowed to broadcast outside
:: those times (for what ever reason)
:
: You are making unwarranted assumptions! BBCHD *IS* allowed to
broadcast
: "special events" outside its "normal hours - and always has
been!

You are making the assumption that this concert is a special
event, I suspect that the term "special event" has been tightly
defined within the licence.
--
Regards, Jerry.


 




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