Eric and Ernie

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms? To name but a few:

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".
The telly came in a cardbox box that just wasn't right at all.
The rabbit ears aerial didn't look at all right for the period. What's
more, at that distance from Holme Moss the dealer would surely have sold
them a proper outside aerial...
When the picture faded in and out the screen went to noise, like a UHF
analogue set would. The old sets just went to a dull slightly noisy
screen and the sound went silent.
The car that Vic Reeves picked Victoria Wood up in right at the end had
a wrong-looking tax disk. Could it have been a 'vintage vehicle 'disk?

I haven't bothered to verify these comments by searching the net for
facts; these are just 'feelings' I had that things weren't right.

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.

I post this not in the spirit of criticising the programme, which I
thought was a brilliant bit of drama, but for sheer nerdy nitpicking fun.

Bill

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?

No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".

Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than 12
inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front of
the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen with
very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.
When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was for
the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably 9
inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12 inch.
This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only used 2
hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all the
others were table models.
No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later design
of X shape, I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into the TV
set.

I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.
Regards
David

"David" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late 1940s
model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought before ITV
started and none of them were less that 12".

Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than 12
inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front of
the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen with
very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.
When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was
for the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably 9
inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12 inch.
This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only used 2
hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all the
others were table models.
No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later
design of X shape, I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into
the TV set.
I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.


I was fortunate enough to watch the 1953 Coronation on a neighbour's rented
Rediffusion WRS 101 (Philips) projection television, ironically later in
life I was gainfully employed in smashing up literally thousands of those
and similar model projection TVs (many of them brand new) which had been
superseded by large screen direct view CRT's.

In message , David
writes


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late
1940s model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought
before ITV started and none of them were less that 12".

Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than
12 inch"
I recall Holme Moss commencing and prior to that used to stand in front
of the local electrical shop window at night looking at a small screen
with very snowy pictures from Sutton Coldfield BBC TV.

When Holme Moss started my uncle was the first to get a TV and that was
for the first Christmas it would have been 10" (or maybe 12")
Grandma was the next with a very small screen less than uncles probably
9 inch. Prior to the Queens coronation she changed to a a 10 or 12
inch. This was the first time TV sets were run all day, up to this only
used 2 hours in an evening.
My parents then got a 12 inch Murphy and this was floor standing all
the others were table models.

By 1954, various friends had TV sets. [Despite my pleadings, we didn't
get one until 1967 - a 17" Sobel costing £75.]. I don't recall seeing
any less than 14". When the transmitter closed down, the picture
certainly went very snowy (which, because of the AGC, you would expect
it to). Any sets which didn't probably had poor - or no - AGC.

No one used inside aerials, all outside of H shape, ours was a later
design of X shape,

This did rather spoil things for me. The problems with getting a good
picture were completely unnecessary.

I recall not all were the now standard coax plug into the TV set.

Some had a small 2-pin plug - one pin a larger diameter, so it couldn't
go in the wrong way round.

I plan to watch the program on the iplayer.
--
Ian

Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

The programme was a delight. Victoria Wood was brilliant. But how come
this newsgroup isn't jam-packed with complaints about the technological
anachronisms?

No-one except you likes Morecambe and Wise.

Hope this helps,
-- Richard
I hate Morecambe and Wise, but the programme was very good. You don't
have to like Hitler to enjoy a programme about him.

Bill

David wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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The television set bought new by Eric's parents in 1954 was a late
1940s model, I think. I remember relatives' tellys that were bought
before ITV started and none of them were less that 12".

Well I think you might have meant to have said "none were greater than
12 inch"

Someone needs to look at one of those sites with old tellys on them.

I had several pre-ITV tellys that needed convertors for ITV and they
were 14" I think.

Bill

Ian Jackson wrote:

Some had a small 2-pin plug - one pin a larger diameter, so it couldn't
go in the wrong way round.
Also used for the FM aerial on many combined TV/FM radio sets.

Some tellys had a saddle-clamp aerial connection.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:

I bet there are lots of people in this group who can say what was wrong
with the TV studio scenes.

I recorded the programme, not seen it yet.

However, I did watch the Coronation Street drama-doc on BBC 4. The studio
gallery had far too modern looking equipment for 1960, including ISTR some 00s
1U router control panels in the desk upstand.


--
Mark
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www.paras.org.uk

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Someone needs to look at one of those sites with old tellys on them.

I had several pre-ITV tellys that needed convertors for ITV and they were
14" I think.


These are the sort I recall and referred to ones are on here.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...on+Sets,+1950s

Regards
David