Annoying Sound Problem

On 26/12/2010 23:20, Skipweasel wrote:
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says...
You just have to be very firm bordering on rude to leave a utility
company these days.

Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried
to slam me the other day. I rang them and told 'em that under no
circumstances were they to try to slam me. The woman on the doorstep had
been rude and very devious.


Unless you have your own power supply etc it's difficult not to.


Mike

In article ,
says...


I had sky here in the UK and wifi for five+ yrs with no problems. The
sky box and router where approx 10ft away from each other with a brick
wall between though laptop and mobiles registered a strong signal in the
room where the sky was installed.


Signal level halves every time you double the distance so, taking your 10ft example, the
Sky box would see double the power if the separation was 5' and four times the power at
2' 6".

Put them next to each other - say 1' 3" apart, and the power level will increase
eightfold. In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750cm & 375cm.

This is in free air - the brick wall, of course, will add additional attenuation!

It is interesting when the above is applied to mobile phones, where an additional factor
comes into play.

Because the base station has to handle many incoming transmissions at once, it likes to
have them all arriving at the same level, so there is an ongoing dialogue between base
and mobile which adjusts the mobile's transmit power appropriately.

Think about this the next time some parent starts crowing about their success in
preventing the big, bad mobile operator from putting up a mast near little Billy's
school, then happily send little Billy off to school with a microwave transmitter
(mobile) which now needs to transmit at a much higher power a mere 2cm from little
Billy's brain!

--

Terry

In article ,
Skipweasel wrote:

You just have to be very firm bordering on rude to leave a utility
company these days.

Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried
to slam me the other day. ....

aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a
term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language.

J.

aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a
term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language.

(sorry: that might come across as rude ... I meant that I like to be
precise when I use language, and therefore like to know proper meanings,
and origins.)

J.

In article , lid
says...

In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750cm & 375cm.


Whoops!

In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750mm & 375mm.

or ...

In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 75cm & 37.5cm.

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Terry

In article [email protected]
nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.196.x.invalid, says...
Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried
to slam me the other day. ....

aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a
term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language.

Oh, sorry. Slamming is when the door-to-door sales rep transfers you to
their firm whether you wanted to or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_slamming

That's specifically telephones, but it can happen with other services as
well.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On Monday, December 27th, 2010 at 11:01:25h +0000, Terry Casey suggested:

then happily send little Billy off to school with a microwave transmitter
(mobile) which now needs to transmit at a much higher power a mere 2cm
from little Billy's brain!

Should Billy be chipped as well?

http://women.timesonline.co.UK/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article1788169.ece

If you do it for you pets, why not the children as well?

--
"You don't give a kid a gun for Christmas.�
-- Sergeant Joe Friday

Terry Casey wrote:
In article , lid
says...
In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750cm & 375cm.


Whoops!

In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750mm & 375mm.

or ...

In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 75cm & 37.5cm.

They only use cm in junior schools don't they?

Bill

On 26/12/2010 21:19, Walt Davidson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:51:13 -0000, "the_constructor"
wrote:

Did you have a protracted argument with them before they would accept
your cancellation? I believe they require 30 days' notice (paid for)
of cancellation!

Oh yes Walt, too true I did. I finished up telling the lad to stop giving me
the third degree, shut his mouth, open his ears and listen...... I JUST WANT
TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION....
He gave me all the bumf that he was only asking and not pressuring me in any
way, funny, I thought he was trying to bully me into putting the sky in
another room..... I just told him that I had SKY Freesat in every room bar
the lounge, which I have, that shut him up.
I know the poor sod is only trying to do his job as per SKY protocol.
Jim G1SSO

Ha ha! I thought as much. I actually cancelled my subscription once
before, in 1999, and even then they gave me the third degree! I told
them I was going to university for three years and would not have a
television set. They had no answer to that!

Now I am seriously considering cancelling again. At the moment I have
the full programme package (including HD but not 3D), and they have
very recently increased the monthly subscription to about £64 which is
more than I am content to pay. Freesat would suit me fine ... except
that I would be rather sorry to lose the 40 or so subscription HD
channels.

Walt (G3NYY)



For what it's worth, I have freeview and Freesat HD, the quality of SD
broadcasts off of the satellite is almost as good as HD quality.
The picture is that much sharper and clearer/better colours etc.

--
Bod

On 27/12/2010 11:01, Terry Casey wrote:
In ,
says...


I had sky here in the UK and wifi for five+ yrs with no problems. The
sky box and router where approx 10ft away from each other with a brick
wall between though laptop and mobiles registered a strong signal in the
room where the sky was installed.


Signal level halves every time you double the distance so, taking your 10ft example, the
Sky box would see double the power if the separation was 5' and four times the power at
2' 6".

Put them next to each other - say 1' 3" apart, and the power level will increase
eightfold. In metric terms this would be 3m, 1.5m, 750cm& 375cm.

This is in free air - the brick wall, of course, will add additional attenuation!

It is interesting when the above is applied to mobile phones, where an additional factor
comes into play.

Because the base station has to handle many incoming transmissions at once, it likes to
have them all arriving at the same level, so there is an ongoing dialogue between base
and mobile which adjusts the mobile's transmit power appropriately.

Think about this the next time some parent starts crowing about their success in
preventing the big, bad mobile operator from putting up a mast near little Billy's
school, then happily send little Billy off to school with a microwave transmitter
(mobile) which now needs to transmit at a much higher power a mere 2cm from little
Billy's brain!


My virginmedia V+ box is 50cm from my Netgear routerwhich is 10 cm away
from my TV with no effect either.

Who is billy?

Mike