It is not just William Wright who thinks the BBC employees lean tothe political left in their voting preference

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

He should try chatting to a sparks or two. Etc. The ones he won't meet
in hospitality.

Yes, but this is about the BBC's innate left wing bias, and that is in
the gift of the 'creatives'.

Then the 'creative' who wrote it should go back to school and learn how to
'create' an article which says what he really means.

If you wish to find something which supports an already firmly held view
it's easy. You just ignore anything which contradicts it.

So quoting one programme you just happen to have viewed as being
representative of all the output is a good example of this.

Of course the BBC is more critical of the party in power than any other.
They also get far more general coverage.

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"Robin" wrote in message
...

Is it not right that a public service broadcaster should be offering
alternative viewpoints to those adopted by the public on very totemic
issues?

I have no problem with the BBC "offering alternative viewpoints". I do
with its attempts to impose its view and to dismiss, ridicule or ignore
other views.

A PSB should always be providing "devil's advocate" arguments to
either side of the public position.

Not just "devil's advocate" please : there's already too much bias in the
BBC for religions and against atheists and secularists

All right then, 'advocatus diaboli'.

--
Max Demian

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

So quoting one programme you just happen to have viewed as being
representative of all the output is a good example of this.

It was one example of many. I wouldn't be complaining about a general
bias if I had only noticed it on one (or ten) programmes. I have no
problem with one prog having bias as long as the broadcaster balances
its output over a period, but the BBC, especially R4, especially light
entertainment, doesn't.


Of course the BBC is more critical of the party in power than any other.
They also get far more general coverage.

The BBC has had a left wing bias for donkey's years. Many of the people
they like to use for quiz shows etc on R4 are in general to the left of
all three main parties. Or at least that's how they have learnt to
perform on the BBC, because they know which side their bread's buttered.
Hear them live in Sheffield or somewhere well away from the BBC's
thought police and they can be quite right wing!

Bill

On Dec 14, 4:31*pm, Bill Wright wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
So quoting one programme you just happen to have viewed as being
representative of all the output is a good example of this.

It was one example of many. I wouldn't be complaining about a general
bias if I had only noticed it on one (or ten) programmes. I have no
problem with one prog having bias as long as the broadcaster balances
its output over a period, but the BBC, especially R4, especially light
entertainment, doesn't.



Of course the BBC is more critical of the party in power than any other..
They also get far more general coverage.

The BBC has had a left wing bias for donkey's years. Many of the people
they like to use for quiz shows etc on R4 are in general to the left of
all three main parties. Or at least that's how they have learnt to
perform on the BBC, because they know which side their bread's buttered.
Hear them live in Sheffield or somewhere well away from the BBC's
thought police and they can be quite right wing!

Bill

IME the BBC has always tended to support the party in power, followed
by other political parties, while they ignore non-party opinions, as
made blatant on 'Question Time/Any Questions'. In particular, THE SIX/
NINE/TEN O'CLOCK NEWS has always resembled a Party Political Broadcast
for the Goverment.

Some of the News 24 presenters are the worst.

I actually don't mind a bit of bias what I can't stand is their ‘down
nasal staring’ at anything to do with big business, the coalition or
spending cuts and the general sanctimonious self-righteous posturing
they display in a way that only the left, so convinced of their moral
high ground, seem to be capable of.

Considering the misery the likes of Labour perennially leave in their
wake, it’s a bit f**king rich their supporters ever trying to fly that
flag when if they had any sense of decorum you would think they would
all be laying low.

But the biggest f**king pain of all is the way they elevate something
perfectly reasonable (and indeed legal) like a bit of tax avoidance to
being some sort of crime of the century.

That’s just rank hypocrisy.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:58:21 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and
Sports has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on
Saturday, December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2...unt-interview-
james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

UNQUOTE

Does it matter which party BBC employees vote for provided that their
political allegiance in no way affects their work?

Rather more people in the general population vote Labour or Liberal
Democrat than vote Conservative. It's only that the Conservatives got
more votes and seats than Labour and the Lib Dems went into coalition
with them.

Which is why they are keen to keep the antiquated FPTP voting system.
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:06:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
J G Miller wrote:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sports
has stated in an interview with The Observer, published on Saturday,
December 11th, 2010 at 22.00h UTC, at

http://www.guardian.co.UK/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-interview-james-naughtie

QUOTE

"I think if you were to discover how people vote at the BBC there are
probably more who vote Labour or Liberal Democrat than vote for the
Conservatives."

He should try chatting to a sparks or two. Etc. The ones he won't meet in
hospitality.

Yes, but this is about the BBC's innate left wing bias, and that is in
the gift of the 'creatives'. Examples of this bias abound. Tonight, for
instance, near the beginning of The One Show, there was an item about
education funding. If anyone doubts that the BBC has left wing bias, I
suggest you watch it on Iplayer. Take in the general tone of the piece,
and time the different segments -- the interview with the government
minister versus all the other material (all of which strongly criticised
the government's position). It was about three to one I think. And take
note of the fact that they happened by pure chance to use as an example
a waif-like student who had recently lost her mother to breast cancer
(irrelevant except to tug at the heart strings).

I did not see this programme but I can imagine. I would doubt any
critism of the current governments (lack of) education funding is
showing any kind of political bias. The governments plans in this
area (and many other areas) are indefensible IMHO.
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Mark wrote:

Yes, but this is about the BBC's innate left wing bias, and that is in
the gift of the 'creatives'. Examples of this bias abound. Tonight, for
instance, near the beginning of The One Show, there was an item about
education funding. If anyone doubts that the BBC has left wing bias, I
suggest you watch it on Iplayer. Take in the general tone of the piece,
and time the different segments -- the interview with the government
minister versus all the other material (all of which strongly criticised
the government's position). It was about three to one I think. And take
note of the fact that they happened by pure chance to use as an example
a waif-like student who had recently lost her mother to breast cancer
(irrelevant except to tug at the heart strings).

I did not see this programme but I can imagine. I would doubt any
critism of the current governments (lack of) education funding is
showing any kind of political bias. The governments plans in this
area (and many other areas) are indefensible IMHO.
Clearly it isn't indefensible, because the govt are defending it quite
ably at the moment. I don't agree with it; I think it goes too far. But
there you are. That's 'democracy'.

Bill

"allantracy" wrote in message
...

Some of the News 24 presenters are the worst.

I actually don't mind a bit of bias what I can't stand is their ‘down
nasal staring’ at anything to do with big business, the coalition or
spending cuts and the general sanctimonious self-righteous posturing
they display in a way that only the left, so convinced of their moral
high ground, seem to be capable of.

Considering the misery the likes of Labour perennially leave in their
wake, it’s a bit f**king rich their supporters ever trying to fly that
flag when if they had any sense of decorum you would think they would
all be laying low.

But the biggest f**king pain of all is the way they elevate something
perfectly reasonable (and indeed legal) like a bit of tax avoidance to
being some sort of crime of the century.

That’s just rank hypocrisy.


I love these posts! I enjoy how you pretend to be this ultra right-wing
nutcase with more extreme views than anybody could ever have in real life,
just to wind up those people who don't realise you're taking the ****!
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Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:04:35 -0800 (PST), allantracy
wrote:

But the biggest f**king pain of all is the way they elevate something
perfectly reasonable (and indeed legal) like a bit of tax avoidance to
being some sort of crime of the century.

Very wealthy businessmen who exploit loopholes to avoid paying any tax
/is/ a crime IMHO. Why should they not pay their fare share of
taxation?
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